Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Satan's Organization -- Who -- Evidence of Identity?

by Marvin Shilmer in

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satan's organization -- who -- evidence of identity

w30 10/1 p. 301 millions of prisoners to hear the gospel***:

"satans organization claims to be gods organization, and persecutes those who are actually members of gods organization.

Vanderhoven7

TRT writes:

Do JWs consider the churches of Christendom satanic?

The TRUTH is YES. The doctrine of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, a publishing and real estate company, is that ALL religions are part of The Harlot depicted in the book of Revelation. JW believe that THEY are God’s only true religion on earth and EVERY SINGLE religion on earth, other than theirs, will be destroyed on the day of Armageddon by a group of “Anointed” persons, now in spirit form, led by Jesus.

They have an infinite number of pictorials in many of their literature; these images are pervasive, readily available and there for all to see including children of any age.

The interesting part is they can't see for themselves how crazy this is. They are not stupid people and you can have normal conversations about the crazy extremes “other” religions promote, (Mormons, Scientology, Amish, LDL) but the minute you point out their brand of crazy they turn off like a light switch.

I have learned a tremendous amount about the human mind and cognitive dissonance during the waking up process. My wife's inability to see reality fr what it is breath taking.

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How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

by BoogerMan in

(revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

Vanderhoven7

I don't know if you Jethro or LeeMerky is funnier, but both of you seem to be suffering from the, "My. dad is tougher than your dad" fallacy

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How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

by BoogerMan in

(revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

Vanderhoven7

My take is that Revelation was written about 67 AD when the 7 churches were present and largely fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem (Babylon, city where our Lord was crucified) in 70 AD.

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How Stef Woke Up!

by Vanderhoven7 in

four of her relatives committed suicide because of the cult.. https://youtu.be/a63ry8ol7wc?si=-n4amwe0iguutk0f.

Vanderhoven7

Despite the suicides as a result of shunning, her family clings to the Org. and continues to shun. Poor brainwashed souls.

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2024-01-15 London Special Preaching Campaign!

by Atlantis in

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2024-01-15-london special preaching campaign!.

https://imgbox.com/lbnsmmyd .

atlantis!.

Vanderhoven7

Less is a risk you won't make it.

More might not be enough.

As in all merit-salvation based religions, you never have assurance of anything.

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How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

by BoogerMan in

(revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

Vanderhoven7

The correct view is that Babylon represents the city where Christ was crucified...or apostate Israel and the law, versus the New Jerusalem representing the church
"Revelation is a tale of two cities. The subject of Revelation is the same as that of Galatians 4:21-31—two women/cities representing two wives. In Galatians we are explicitly told that these “things are symbolic, for these are the two covenants” (Gal. 4:24). It is exactly the same in Revelation. The New Jerusalem bride is a betrothed wife (Rev. 19:7); harlot Babylon is a widowed wife (Rev. 18:7). The unfaithful widowed wife (who became a widow when she had Jesus killed) is destroyed and then the betrothed bride becomes married (Rev. 19:1-11).3

The destruction of Jerusalem not only caused an economic crisis, it also had major religious implications. With the demolition of the Temple, major aspects of the Law of Moses, including animal sacrifice, could no longer be practiced. God seemed to have rejected the old covenant system and its people.

1After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. 2With a mighty voice he shouted: “Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!4 She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird. 3For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”

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How Stef Woke Up!

by Vanderhoven7 in

four of her relatives committed suicide because of the cult.. https://youtu.be/a63ry8ol7wc?si=-n4amwe0iguutk0f.

Vanderhoven7

Four of her relatives committed suicide because of the cult.

https://youtu.be/a63RY8oL7Wc?si=-N4AMwe0iGuutk0F

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The Reason Behind Recent Watchtower Changes

by Vanderhoven7 in

eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.

Vanderhoven7

Perhaps the Great Tribulation will not start with a worldwide attack on false religion, but instead, on the so called "only true religion".

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The Next Big Thing In WT World

by NotFormer in

things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

Vanderhoven7

The org. must retain it's exclusiveness. So my take is 1914 is here to stay.

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Who really ARE the "true Christians?"

by BoogerMan in

w93 11/1 p. 32 - "today, there has to exist a people, not just scattered individuals, who fit jesus’ description of true christians and who make god’s name manifest.".

and here was i thinking that true christians had to proclaim jesus' name!!!

matthew 10:18; mark 13:9; luke 24:48; john 1:15; john 5:37; john 8:18; john 15:26, 27; acts 1:8; acts 9:15; acts 10:39; acts 10:43; acts 13:31; acts 22:15; acts 22:20; acts 23:11; acts 26:16; 1 corinthians 1:6; 1 timothy 2:6, 7; 2 timothy 1:8; 1 john 5:9; revelation 1:9; revelation 12:17; revelation 17:6; revelation 19:10; revelation 20:4. how could the faithful evil slave get something so important, so wrong?.

Vanderhoven7

The kingdom of God is not a visible or observable entity. It is a spiritual kingdom made up of all who are indwelt by the Holy Spirit of God. ROMANS 8:9

This disqualifies Watchtower's version of the so called great crowd of other sheep.