@bbqbob,
You are welcome. Glad you are still with us.
"Two class system, please show some scriptures that disprove the little flock from the other sheep."
I'll start a thread on this one if you don't mind.
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Petition against Ostracism Practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://peticaopublica.com.br/pview.aspx?pi=br137007.
petition against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
public petition: against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
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NEW LIGHTS regarding d/f'd JW's!
by BoogerMan injw's can now talk to disfellowshipped friends & relatives, in order to encourage them back to the k.h.
and to welcome any d/f'd ones who turn up at the k.h.. https://www.jw.borg/download/?docid=1112024005&langwritten=asl.
remove the b in the borg.
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Vanderhoven7
I like this former elder on the subject of new light
https://www.youtube.com/live/Niylx2e5LCc?si=MU88ThGebtgjnERH
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God, one person, or three?
by slimboyfat inthe trinity doctrine says god is three persons in one being.. yet the bible says god is one.. gal 3.20 a mediator, however, implies more than one party; but god is one.
niv.
gal 3.20 now a mediator is not for just one person, but god is one.
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Vanderhoven7
JWs have an unrelatable Jesus that you cannot come to and share your burdens with.p
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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations
by IWant2Know ini would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?
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Vanderhoven7
Bible-based does not always mean biblical. When it comes to unique WT teachings, Bible-based means unbiblical.
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Petition against Ostracism Practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://peticaopublica.com.br/pview.aspx?pi=br137007.
petition against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
public petition: against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
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Vanderhoven7
@bbqbob.
Welcome to the forum Bob!
It takes guts to be here where your faith will no doubt be challenged.
Let me encourage you to hang around and discuss issues in a free environment, that is open to Atheists, Agnostics, JWs and exJWs as well Bible believers such as myself.
Like you, I believe the Bible is the word of God; unlike you, I have never been one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Like you, I don't believe the Bible teaches eternal torment is the wage of sin or that the soul is inately immortal, but unlike you I don't believe that the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is biblical. By that I mean that I believe every doctrine or teaching that is unique and original to Jehovah's Witnesses is not found in the Bible.
You have listed a few of the unique Watchtower teachings in your last post that you would like anyone try to disprove. By the way, it can be a difficult task trying to disprove a negative. You know, prove pink elephants don't exist for example. So the onus usually falls on the one claiming that pink elephants exist to provide evidence that they do.
All this to say, I hope you feel welcome enough to stay a while and share in the discussion on topics Watchtower related.
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Faithful Slave Appointment: What are the assumptions of Watchtower Matthew 24:45-47 Eschatology?
by Vanderhoven7 intext: matthew 24:45-47.
45 “who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?
46 it will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.
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Vanderhoven7
Watchtower religion is based on eisegesis rather than exegesis.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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Vanderhoven7
Was it the rich man's literal tongue that was burning? Would literal drops of water soothe his tongue?
Time to recognize the account of Lazarus and the Rich Man is fictional.
My contention is that the literary form of Lazarus and the Rich Man is satire, or more particularly, a parody, there must be clear evidence that:
a. A common or "well known story line is being imitated".
b. irony is employed; that the story’s outcome is changed such that there is clear “incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the expected result”
c. the unexpected results "highlight human stupidity" or corruption.
d. "a comic end is served", the purpose of which is to cause listeners "to detach sympathies from certain people (groups), to judge their actions and to see the absurdity in their behavior…
Satire can be defined as “biting wit, irony or sarcasm used to expose vice or folly...”.
And good satire never fails to inspire “laughter, contempt, or horror as it seeks to correct the follies and abuses it uncovers”.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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Vanderhoven7
Yes, Jesus died for the whole world and God is not willing that any be "tortured for eternity" but apparently he is simply unable to draw people to himself to prevent this.
Something doesn't make sense with this scenario.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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Vanderhoven7
Destroy means "to preserve" according to some. And apparently we are all invited to fear the one who knows how to preserve body and soul in endless torture.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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@Hal
"a physical body is required to feel physical pain"
Tell that to the rich man and the billions of human beings alledgedly burning in Hades as we speak.