Posts by smsalvit

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What saves us from death?

by Quentin in

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terry and i were able to get togather today for a pleasent visit.

we disscussed a number of things.

one thing we talked about was "near misses" we experienced over the years.

Quentin- hypothetical situation here: a series of events occured when i spilled my glass of water today. my dad left a dog toy on the floor right in my path. i tripped, spilling my water all over the floor. i happened to notice an ant drowned in my spilt water. this ant's life was taken. hypothetically, if ants were conscious beings, as are humans, could you imagine this ant's family torturing themselves by asking "why did little cleatus have to die? why?!" was there some higher being who wanted to take this ants life? no, it was simply a mistake on my part for not watching where i was walking (or you could place blame on my dad for not setting the toy aside.lol i like that idea better) "why" seems to me like the wrong question to ask. why does there even have to be a reason why? can't it just be?

"why is the sky blue?" reactions of atoms and light in the atmosphere, etc. "well who decided to make it blue?" this is where these types of questions veer off the path of logic. where is this "who" coming from? i guess its understandable that we're all use to seeing things, like a chair, and just having the common sense that the chair could not be in existance unless some "who" created it. so i guess its easy to apply that line of thought to everything (life-death situations, the universe, etc). it may make sense to apply the "if theres a creature, there must be a creator" type thinking to physical things, but when your dealing with the realm of intangibles, its quite different. you should only go by what you know, as already posted by someone else.

"why" questions just seem ridiculous to me. if you want to start asking why questions, then why not do it for everything? why was my car painted white? who decided to paint my car white? is it b/c white cars are the safest and God wants me to survive and drive safely? or maybe it was just b/c they were all out of all the other colors. most ppl would like to believe the reason why would be b/c "white cars are the safest and God wants me to survive and drive safely." that sounds more comforting, yea i think i like that, thats what im gonn believe. im special and God wants me alive. its a mechanism the human brain has in order to cope with their fear of death. other organisms don't have a fear of death, since they are not conscious beings like us.

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Friends....

by letsslatejws in

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i have 2 worldly friends and 1 faded jw.. loads of aquaintences but that is my lot.

this makes me feel bitter (because ive led a sheltered life!

how have the rest of you faired?.

smsalvit

go for it. i understand being hesitant, not knowing exactly what ur getting into and all that. i get social anxiety rather often and i blame the org/my mom for that. i wasn't to speak unless spoken too, and even when i did say something it was wrong and i was scolded for it, so i learned not to talk much, hence my bad speech communication skills. writing on forums like this makes it easier for me to get out my thoughts tho. currently i would say i only have 1 true friend that i completely trust and a bunch of acquantences (since i live on campus at college).

anyway, a positive thing you have going for you is that you can go with your husband, so your not completely alone. you can fall back on each other if things don't go well at the gathering, umm i mean party ;).

let us know how it goes

peace & knowledge to all

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Letter Regarding Academic Researchers

by Bangalore in

letter regarding academic researchers.. .

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bangalore.

smsalvit

im interested in knowing what university or organization was conducting the research and what type of project it was.

my guess is that they're statistic seeking about population, race, employment (or lack thereof), age, gender, etc.

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What saves us from death?

by Quentin in

jw
friends

terry and i were able to get togather today for a pleasent visit.

we disscussed a number of things.

one thing we talked about was "near misses" we experienced over the years.

smsalvit

nobody saves us, or even has the power to. it's called the chaos theory. in lamens terms: shit happens. the fact that Terry's foot slipped off the gas peddle was just by chance. if that happened and there was no 18 wheeler, then Terry would not have even told you that story, he probably would not have even remembered the incident b/c it would be insignificant. humans just don't like to think that things don't happen for a reason. they want there to be something more, someone in control. there is absolutely no evidence for such a belief.

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Alot has Changed and I'm going BACK

by Butterflyleia85 in

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i bet people has forgotten me but thats ok because i know they have helped me a lot on here.. .

anyways i think the last time i been on here i mentioned my jw sister not going to my wedding.

for those that do remember my story, the wedding was beautiful on the beach in key west, fl!

smsalvit

i also thought butterfly's posts were a little fishy. first of all, i have never heard of someone waking up from a coma and then wanting to go back under. i read all the posts, then i got to page three where butterfly makes her announcement of pregnancy. at this point i think this is all fake. i could be wrong, but thats my intuition speaking.

if all of this is true, i am deeply saddened. put very simply, you are not staying true to yourself. your going to get tired of putting on an act. JW's have at least one thing right: living a double life is not easy, and you will be able to attest to that. the real truth will eat at you year after year after year, if you last that long. i strongly advise against this decision. i understand you want to be with your family, but moving on with your life without them is something that you can learn to cope with. friends, support groups, therapy, the list goes on and they all work if you use them.

as previously stated, once you take the red pill, you can't go back.

peace and knowledge to you butterfly

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Are you led by logic or emotion?

by compound complex in

on a recent thread i admitted personal difficulties in the arena of critical thinking.

logic and reason are not my strong suit, but i try.. you?.

coco.

smsalvit

i'm led by reason. it has me chained up with double locks, swallowed the key, took a crap then flushed the toilet. people often mistake my decisions for being cold-hearted and void of emotion, which may be true. anyone else here notice or been told the same thing before?

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Let's focus on what's important

by notverylikely in

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mainly, how awesome i am.

i have noticed several threads that are not about how awesome i am and, frankly, it's a little disturbing.

i might also be drunk.

smsalvit

peace, knowledge, and awesomeness to all

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Why would you buy Weed?????

by Darth plaugeis in

if you had the legal choice... it's friday would you buy a 20 pack of beer or a $20 bag of weed.. the topic of never got drunk!

made me think would it be better to get stoned or drunk?.

i can function 100% the next day after being stoned...... i can function ??

smsalvit

why would i buy weed?

to feel great

peace and knowledge to all

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blood transfusions versus death

by arimatthewdavies in

smsalvit

Hello Jimmy Page, big fan of ur music btw.

Disgusting and shameful are very accurate words to describe such a misleading talk. I'd be surprised if that story were actually true and not just hear-say the elder was regurgitating. even if this did happen, for that one "success" story, there are probably umteen deaths, as you've already pointed out.

It is apalling that otherwise sane people (although that is debatable as well <grin>) put their children up for sacrificial roullete, if you will. If the child dies, he couragously died for Jehovah; if he survives, praise be to Jehovah for watching over him. One way or the other they justify it. It is one of the most sickening and inhumane practices.

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Encounter with JW's on the Street

by OnTheWayOut in

i was pushing my sister's wheelchair as we were enjoying the perfect .

saturday noon weather.

we were going to a local restaurant to get .

smsalvit

I can't wait until the day my chance comes to do something like this. It seems like you handled it relatively well. When I was attending meetings I didn't even know an elders manual existed, so when a person I was arguing with mentioned it, I really thought they were full of shit and just pulling things out of their ass. A few days later I asked a MS and he confirmed it. The fact that he was correct about the manual made me start to think he may be right about the other things they said. I really hope this is the case with the people you encountered, just to plant some doubt in them.