Posts by MeanMrMustard

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Hidden program in the new WT CD alerts Bethel who has visited apostate websites!!

by moshe in

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friends

just imagine, if that was a true statement- or maybe it is already in the works?

do you think it is possible?.

MeanMrMustard

@AllTimeJeff:

Agreed. They aren't actually doing it. We would know after the first occurance of an elder being DFed for apostate activity on a website like JWN. That elder would be telling everyone about it, with nothing to lose. Right now, I don't think they care. But, what was being commented on was the ability to actually get their hands on such info (which elders or JWs frequent JWN-like sites).

You wrote:

" Simply put folks, they can't because they aren't that talented! They can't follow moles on the internet, and they can't embed images in pictures designed to get you to become and/or stay a JW."

I don't know about that. Their IT department would have to all be literal retards for them to not be able to turn on IP logging... its just a setting, and the rest is taken care of by the web server.

MeanMrMustard

BTW - like your avatar

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Hidden program in the new WT CD alerts Bethel who has visited apostate websites!!

by moshe in

jw
friends

just imagine, if that was a true statement- or maybe it is already in the works?

do you think it is possible?.

MeanMrMustard

@HintOfLime:

You wrote:

MeanMrMustard:
I was going to comment and suggest that exact same thing. If elders are already logging onto a site, it's something they could implement in an afternoon.
To take the system further, they could provide a handy site for something like say.. publishers reporting their monthly time. Registration would require the name and congragation of the publisher. Then, like you say - sprinkle images hosted on a JW site in a posts like this. When they get an IP match, an email is automatically issued to an elder in the local congragation that so-and-so is potentially reading apostate sites on the internet.
Publishers will quickly figure it out, a bethel insider will go on the 7 o'clock news - and two dozen lawsuits later they'll stop sending emails to the local elders (but continue tracking, of course).
- Lime

Exactly... it could happen in about 10/20 minutes easy. They could record over a month or two and quickly build a decent database of elders out on sites like JWN. Well, minus the ones that have their wireless piggy-backed by the neighbor... :)

They could claim that having the individual publishers log their time online would relieve the local elders from keeping account on the publishers cards, and can allow transfers into new congregations go much faster/easier.

Of course, as soon as a single elder got DFed from it, that elder would be on all the forums letting everyone know what happened. All would then know that the WTS is up to some serious house cleaning... But then again, why would the WT care? Their goal would be to get rid of all those pesky elders that are posting things like the new elders manual...

MeanMrMustard

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Hidden program in the new WT CD alerts Bethel who has visited apostate websites!!

by moshe in

jw
friends

just imagine, if that was a true statement- or maybe it is already in the works?

do you think it is possible?.

MeanMrMustard

@TD:

You wrote:

Even with a web beacon, there's still deniability. "My neighbor must have been piggybacking on my wireless" etc.

Very true. Yet, the probablity of that is low. Why not just clean house?

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Hidden program in the new WT CD alerts Bethel who has visited apostate websites!!

by moshe in

jw
friends

just imagine, if that was a true statement- or maybe it is already in the works?

do you think it is possible?.

MeanMrMustard

@moshe:

You wrote:

Now, I'm just theorizing like a Bethel lawyer, but If I wanted to clean out the rotten apples in the KH, I would start with the elders. I would provide all the elders with a special website just for them- tell them all the good stuff will be available to them first- here's your super secret website brother elder, and your username-- then I would scan those computers for our beloved JWN cookie and all apostate website cookies- yes, it would be interesting to see what happens next.

They have a website like that... jw.org.. elders sign in to there. So, You wouldn't need a cookie. Here is what you do:

1) Register a user at JWN.

2) Post on JWN, really stupid things like "marking this thread"... or "Great Job!". In the middle of the post, include a picture that resides on a WT web server somewhere. A really small 1 pixel by 1 pixel white bitmap. Then IP address logging could be turned on, thereby collecting the IP address (and other info the browser is willing to cough up) of anyone trying to grab that picture (which would be whoever is viewing it on JWN).

3) Gather all the distinct IP addresses and compare them to the IP addresses of the elders as they log into JW.org.

This would give them the exact elder username viewing JWN - which would then tie directly to a name. It would be very easy, without any sort of program included in the WT CDROM to find out the identities of the active elders browsing through JWN - or any other apostate website for that matter. In fact, if the WT were clever about it, they would use different picture links for different sites, so that they would know which sites were being viewed...

MeanMrMustard

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2011-2012 DC Brochure(s) "Listen to God" PDF

by yknot in

anonymous brother does it again!

(huge round of applause!!!

(regular) http://www.sendspace.com/file/nzjme3.

MeanMrMustard

Man, that simplified version is retarded... Was this designed with kids in mind? Holy cow, if not, are they going to try to place this at the door?

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2011-2012 DC Brochure(s) "Listen to God" PDF

by yknot in

anonymous brother does it again!

(huge round of applause!!!

(regular) http://www.sendspace.com/file/nzjme3.

MeanMrMustard

@jwfacts, you wrote:

"I wasn't sure how they could make such a simple brochure simpler. But they managed. The Watchtower is really trying to attact the poor and uneducated. Don't they realise that is not where the money is going to come from?"

I wonder if they reason that the jig is up among even moderately educated individuals... they are leaving. Therefore, there will be no more money from that demographic. They need to take anything they can get. Normally I would agree that it would be more profitable to create a decent argument for their theology, but I'm pretty sure non exists, and I wouldn't be surprised if they knew that too.

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607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

by Witness My Fury in

if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

MeanMrMustard

Let eggnog try to defend it... I still think that the GB knows exactly what they want when they "strongly urge" JWs to not post to boards such as this - they don't want the obvious embarassment. Nobody can defend 607, its just flat out wrong, and the GB knows it. Each time a JW tries to defend it, it does more harm than good....

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...Were Trump`s comments about Obama Racist?...

by OUTLAW in

more backlash: david letterman considers banning trump for his racist comments.

by colby hall | 8:16 am, april 29th, 2011 video .

david letterman and his guest dr. phil discussed donald trumps recent allegations that barack obama was.

MeanMrMustard

I don't know. I just read the quotes (clicked link in OP), and I don't think they were racist. What exactly was racist about those comments?

MeanMrMustard

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OK, WHO HERE IS GOING TO WATCH THE ROYAL WEDDING???

by Mary in

i admit it----i plan on getting up at 4:00 freaking am to watch it.

i remember getting up around that time 30 years ago .

anyone else plan on watching it?.

MeanMrMustard

Did not watch it... and I'm a bit tired of it. I think I would feel better about it there hadn't been royal wedding reruns for the last week... constantly....

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What do OBVES and LARS have in common?

by moshe in

jw
friends

MeanMrMustard

@moshe:

If you look at the identicon, they are hitting the site from different IP addresses... Not that Dan Brown couldn't be using proxy servers to hide his real identity :)

MeanMrMustard