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  Punishment and control: the secret handbook that rules a religion

  by Tahoe in

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  this article is behind a paywall: https://www.smh.com.au/national/punishment-and-control-the-secret-handbook-that-rules-a-religion-20231026-p5ef9z.html.

  a herald investigation has uncovered disturbing practices within the jehovah’s witness church, including the systems for discipline, punishment and control in a secret rule book for church “elders”.. australian children in the jehovah’s witnesses religion are being trained to avoid life-saving blood transfusions and parents are being coached to thwart court processes that may prevent their children from dying, internal church documents reveal.. an investigation following an inquest into the death of jehovah’s witness heather winchester, who died in newcastle after refusing a blood transfusion, has uncovered disturbing practices within the australian church, including the systems for discipline, punishment and control contained in the secret rule book for church “elders”.. the church’s blood transfusion ban forces people to choose between risking death by refusing treatment or being “shunned” – cut off from family and friends under the church’s strict rules – according to 16 former and current members of the church interviewed and the testimony of many others.. .

  some of them believe it has cost hundreds of lives in australia.. “i think it’s truly dangerous for children, who are not old enough to vote or drive, to be coached about how to convince a judge or doctors about a decision that is potentially life-threatening,” said fleur hawes, 32, a solicitor who escaped the religion and is speaking out for the first time.. in public, the jehovah’s witnesses’ leadership downplays the impacts of its ban on blood transfusions, which are based on interpretations of bible passages that say christians should not eat blood.. .

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  MeanMrMustard

  Haven't we known all this for the last 40 years or so?
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  Convention Blast

  by Zilgee in

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  jw convention blast in kerala india.

  one died.

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  @Beth Sarim:

  Right. The ultimate fate of the WT isn't annihilation. It's a much smaller, insignificant group. They will go out with a whimper, not a bang (figuratively or literally).
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  Convention Blast

  by Zilgee in

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  jw convention blast in kerala india.

  one died.

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  This violent action only strengthens their resolve.

  You do more damage to the WT by simply leaving. If you can, pull your family out. Hold other family members accountable for their views. Break the family cycle.
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  Pornography in the Marriage

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".

  how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.

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  How many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?

  Yes. Also, what type of elder would accept such a request? Seems to me that as soon as the trusted elder accepted the request, he should no longer be trusted.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  How would someone in Croatia, upon getting a criminal conviction for speech in Croatia, put a US citizen in prison or even collect on the judgement?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Perhaps one of his supporters can ask the obvious question- why didn't you already have this evidence ready during the 15 months of waiting?

  It's tough to find time to look for non-existant evidence when you spend 98% of your day masterbating to Thai porn.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  9. Claims that I personally confirmed and admitted all the allegations made by Kim Silvio...

  Lmao. He literally did that, and more, on the video that he, I'm sure, left out of evidence.

  Question: Are his financial statements public record now?

  Also, since when are "insinuations" basis for libel or defamation?
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  If you were to design a new religion?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

  it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

  very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

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  I think I might combine my Mustardarian rituals with Simon's, clearly righteous, religion.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  MeanMrMustard

  "Woke" is an ideology. It's ultimately a Marxist ideology. It seeks to tear down, through dialectical means, through struggle sessions - but it's all culturally based. It's cancerous.

  But not being woke doesn't mean you are virtuous. It just means you aren't a useful idiot for literally destroying civil society.
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  Index of Evidence for Evolution Threads

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  re-posting this for reference.. #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  MeanMrMustard

  One thing that tends to get blown away here is when you claim ex-JWs are just in a different cult now. Same thing happened with politics. Just don't do that. Disagreement doesn't mean we are in a cult.

  It's not evidence that anything is false, especially evolution.