I really don't believe the actual number of partakers is going up... I believe the WT leadership is purposely increasing the number of partakers to buy themselves more time... they know they're losing credibility with some JWs in doing so, but with the majority (who are mostly oblivious to this) they really are buying time... that's just my personal opinion...
Posts by Alfred
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36Memorial Partakers guesses?
by AK - Jeff inthe last four years:.
with all the changes in the 'generation', 'sealing', doctines, etc.
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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Alfred
MsGrowingGirl... WELCOME BACK!!! we were worried about you...
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What is the current JW stance on blood - for nursing assignment..
by coldfish inhi, i'm an ex-jw, i left about 10 years ago, and my memory is getting blurry on some jw detail these days.
sorry i'm sure there are stacks of discussions on blood already but i don't have too much time for reading through hundreds of pages.
i'm a nursing student and our topic for the week is blood.
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Alfred
JWs are not allowed to eat salad as this is a disfellowshipping offense according to the Bible. However, since tomatoes only makes up a small portion of the salad, they're allowed to eat just the tomatoes if their conscience is not affected in doing so, but not the entire salad. Also, they're allowed to eat lettuce. No wait, they're not allowed to eat lettuce because it is the major component of the salad... Wait, let me back up... even though lettuce practically fills the entire plate, lettuce is mostly water so it would be left to the JW's conscience if they choose to eat the lettuce but only after prayerful consideration of Biblical teachings on the matter. On the other hand, he would have to consider where he stands spiritually if he decides to consume the salad dressing along with either the lettuce or the tomatoes separately. That being said, if the salad eater shows true repentance upon being questioned by three elders, there's a good possibility that he may not have to be disfellowshipped. In such cases, a private reproval may suffice but his qualifications as a pioneer, ministerial servant or elder will need to be reviewed. According to Proverbs 4:18, there will be more updated information about this subject in the future.
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Hello Jehovah's Witnesses. I was in class 119 of Gilead in 2005
by AllTimeJeff inmy picture is in the january 1, 2006 watchtower.. why am i telling you this?
consider this my small weekend contribution to the cause of real truth.
any jw who has been one for a while, or a born in, knows the regard that pioneers, elders, bethelites and missionaries have.
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Alfred
"Fear keeps you from the truth. It doesn't lead you to it."
Such a simple statement... yet very powerful...
thanks AllTimeJeff!
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It's official!
by lilbluekitty intonight i just got my certificate: i'm officially a member of my church and a baptist.
(i think of myself as just a general christian, but i like the laid-backishness of the baptists.
i definitely don't think one denomination is better than anyone else though, and my church is multi-cultural, so i'm not a hater of other races like some southern baptists).
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Alfred
Excellent... as long as it doesn't control you and it makes you happy, why the heck not? Congratulations!!!
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1914, Generation doctrine belief change!
by Gill ini had the dubious pleasure of explaining the 1914 generation change doctrine to a relative who has been a jw for all of his life the other day.
he didn't even know that there had been a generation change and that the wt was no longer claiming that those alive in 1914 would still be alive when armageddon struck.. however, he said he would only believe me if i could tell him the exact date of the watchtower that explained this change.. though i know it is 1995, i do not know the exact date/issue and he refused to research it claiming it would show lack of faith on his part if he questioned his beliefs....but he said he would look it up if i told him which issue it was.. so, please, could anyone direct me to the exact issue in which this world shattering event was revealed?.
i remember, many jws, especially elderly ones being shocked at this revelation, but obviously this particular relative was not concentrating at the time!!
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Alfred
Caminante... thanks... I completely forgot about that...
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Do the hours of the JW's reflect their actual preaching?
by justhuman inwhen i was watchtower witness and pioneer i recall how we used to abuse the hours at the field service.... getting up in the morning, and doing street work..after the street work going to the kindom hall for the field service, and the at the territory.
after finishing the territory continue some street work in order continue reporting the time.. so starting at 8.15 in the morning, then stop at 9.15 to drive to the kindom hall, and around 9.50 we were getting at the territory.
then after the 2 hours preaching(and usually 85%of the people were not home and the rest show no interest at all, and after 2 coffee brakes, finishing at 12.00. then going some street work at the center of the town until 1.00. so we used to report 5 hours!!!
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Alfred
If JWs were only allowed to count the actual time spent talking to people (not walking from door-to-door, driving, or going to Starbuck's), the only "INCREASE" the WT would be able to report every year is an increase of zero's or blank columns on the monthly service report.
The WT knows the numbers aren't real... but it's appearances that matter the most to them.
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JW: Special Global Preaching Campaign
by pixel inthe following is from jw.org, but first, one observation: why they are putting all the importance in the bible teach book and not in the bible?.
also, if you look on the home page, on an image they have, you see all the witnesess holding the bible teach book in the foreground, and in some pictures, a witness holding the bible in the background.
so much for putting the bible first.. .
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Alfred
I'm going to buy some Dunkin Doughnuts and Starbucks stocks on ETrade right now and sell them in the last week of March...
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Attention Rick Fearon (koolaid man): WHO IS THE RADIO PERSONALITY THAT YOU CLAIM IS JEALOUS OF YOU???
by Alfred inno rick... you don't get to dodge the question this time.... you are quick to claim that posters who call you out whenever you lie are cowards... so you are implying that you are not a coward yourself.... that being the case, you should not have a problem answering this simple question:.
who is the radio personailty that you claim is jealous of you?.
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Alfred
I guess we'll never know now...
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History of 1914 date
by robB infrom the small amount of research that i've done i've found the following points:.
charles russell was the author of the prophecy that christ returned in 1914in an earlier period of his life russell promoted the idea christ had returned in 1874, which was originated by another man named nelson barbourat both times, christ was said to have returned invisibly (does anyone remember the story of the emperor's new clothes)russell used some measurements from inside of the great pyramid of giza to bolster his calculation for 1914, which was rooted in the cobbling of bible passages dealing with the fall of jersualem, the times of the gentiles and nebuchadneezar episode of madness (7 times)am i missing anything?.
i'm trying to show a friend in the organization that all of this is a bunch of baloney.. .
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Alfred
Google John Aquila Brown or his book The Even Tide (1823)... that's pretty much where this 2,520 year calculation started...