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  Thanks to all

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am by nature a reticent soul.

  i am perfectly happy to watch from the sidelines as others debate and contest, poke, prod, and cajole one another.

  as an observer, i still gain.

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  Alfred

  I'm surprized that I've never heard of this book... thanks for sharing!
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  Question for Dogpatch (Randy): What will it cost to produce the new 16-page Watchtower & Awake?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when literature used to be sold d2d, i remember how the society never missed an opportunity to trash other religions for "peddling god's word for profit" while boasting about how the watchtower only charges for the cost of the paper and ink.. in the book "witnesses of jehovah", the author mentioned that randall watters used to be involved in print cost analysis and determined that, while we were selling wt & awake mags for 20 cents door-to-door, it was really only costing the society 4 cents per copy to produce.

  that's a whopping 400% profit!.

  obviously, things have changed... the paper is different, as well as the ink and printing methods in general.

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  Alfred

  Thanks Randy. Their Billion Dollar Brooklyn sell-off reminds me of when I had to make the tough decision to dig into my 401(k) to pay for necessary expenses. They're basically taking out a loan from their own assets and paying themselves back in the form of newer facilities in Warwick, New York... I'm just not sure that these new facilities can be easily flipped at any time in the future given their remote location. But at least they'll have close to a billion dollars in cash when all is said and done... on the other hand, a billion dollars can dissapear rather quickly when you're running a worldwide empire under false pretenses... time will tell.
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  Attention Governing Body: October 2, 2014 is only 940 days away...

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1823, john aquila brown (a man who is not mentioned in any wt publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the end of the gentile times).... several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the adventists and the bible students... when armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including charles taze russell's bible students who predicted that the big a would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic biblical extrapolation.... except for the bible students who continued to move up the date for armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use wwi as the starting point for the "last days".. all the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the october 2, 1914 date.

  oddly, for the watchtower bible & tract publishing cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that john aquila brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "the even tide")... again, no mention of this in any watchtower publication.

  but, for jws, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "last days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".. because of this, the governing body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's.

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  Alfred

  905 days remaining....
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  Question for Dogpatch (Randy): What will it cost to produce the new 16-page Watchtower & Awake?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when literature used to be sold d2d, i remember how the society never missed an opportunity to trash other religions for "peddling god's word for profit" while boasting about how the watchtower only charges for the cost of the paper and ink.. in the book "witnesses of jehovah", the author mentioned that randall watters used to be involved in print cost analysis and determined that, while we were selling wt & awake mags for 20 cents door-to-door, it was really only costing the society 4 cents per copy to produce.

  that's a whopping 400% profit!.

  obviously, things have changed... the paper is different, as well as the ink and printing methods in general.

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  Alfred

  Devil Fish ... I think you just gave the Watchtower Real Estate Investment Corporation a great idea... they should give you at least 10% of all profits that this idea will generate... You can send me half of that for bringing up this subject on this thread...
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  Question for Dogpatch (Randy): What will it cost to produce the new 16-page Watchtower & Awake?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when literature used to be sold d2d, i remember how the society never missed an opportunity to trash other religions for "peddling god's word for profit" while boasting about how the watchtower only charges for the cost of the paper and ink.. in the book "witnesses of jehovah", the author mentioned that randall watters used to be involved in print cost analysis and determined that, while we were selling wt & awake mags for 20 cents door-to-door, it was really only costing the society 4 cents per copy to produce.

  that's a whopping 400% profit!.

  obviously, things have changed... the paper is different, as well as the ink and printing methods in general.

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  Alfred

  When literature used to be sold D2D, I remember how the Society never missed an opportunity to trash other religions for "peddling God's word for profit" while boasting about how the Watchtower only charges for the cost of the paper and ink.

  In the book "Witnesses of Jehovah", the author mentioned that Randall Watters used to be involved in print cost analysis and determined that, while we were selling WT & Awake mags for 20 cents door-to-door, it was really only costing the Society 4 cents per copy to produce. That's a whopping 400% profit!

  Obviously, things have changed... the paper is different, as well as the ink and printing methods in general. But based on the current quality and weight of the Watchtower & Awake mags, what would be the Society's cost to print a 32-page magazine versus the thinner 16-page mag?
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  KM Sermon for April, "We are providing a Public Service"

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thought about the suggested sermon for the april magazines in the km.

  it suggests that jw say that they are doing a public service.. a public service, is a service that is rendered by the government.

  doesn't that writing commitee know the meaning of such words.. i wonder if they are trying to mislead by using this wording, or, they just don't get it..

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  Alfred

  The public service JWs provide is waking up lazy people Saturday mornings, thereby reducing widespread obesity.
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  I just asked the JW website for a home visit...

  by TimeBandit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just went and filled out the form asking to be visited.

  i hope they come soon so i can work my super apostate magic!

  uh, if the super apostate magic doesn't work, i'll just let my huge great danes out onto the porch and freak the witnesses out followed by kicking them off my front porch... .

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  Alfred

  Billy... wouldn't that make your annoying neighbors even more annoying?
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  To Those of You Partaking at Home This Year. . .

  by leavingwt in

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  2. friends

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  have you abandoned the wt idea of two classes of christians?

  while still a believer, ray's books helped me to see that the idea of there being two classes of christians was a 'unique interpretation' of the watchtower society with no basis in scripture.

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  Alfred

  using pretzels and beer as emblems this year...
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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  Alfred

  shamelessly bumping just because it's memorial night...
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  How did/does your congregation view going out to eat AFTER the Memorial?

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for us it used to be a big no-no, but i think it has slowly grown more acceptable since many of our elders would be starving during the whole reject jesus party.... i always thought it was a bit funny when i saw brothers and sisters almost celebrating with a big feast and drinks on the night that the good ol' messiah sacrificed himself for all humankind!

  it seems now more recently that since it is the only thing witnessess can celebrate, they go all out!

  maybe i'll join in the festivities too.. so what about you guys?

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  Alfred

  Never heard of it being a no-no.... In my area it's a tradition... (for more info, see the following thread)

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/207581/1/Are-JWs-the-worst-restaurant-customers