in barbara grizzuti harrison's book visions of glory: a history and a memory of jehovah?s witnesses (which is online at http://www.exjws.net/vg.htm -- i highly recommend it) there's an account of heartlessness at bethel that i found particularly troubling.
it's in "chapter iv.
accumulating wealth while the world refuses to die" (http://www.exjws.net/vg4.htm) and is as follows:.
The Society wants nothing to do with older bethelites or aging career pioneers after they've outlived their usefulness... They're perfectly content kicking them to the curb or letting some generous brother or the government deal with them...
Sorry, that's not entirely accurate... they do care about the ones who might possibly have some property or cash stashed away...
my wife and i got a letter sent to me stating we are being called before a judical hearing to discuss allegations of apostasy!
we haven't gone to the meeting in 5 years.
are the jw's on a witchhunt lately?
Jim... that's what we plan to say if it ever comes up... I don't think we'll be asked because they know these went up in May...
At the current rate that they're increasing, there will be roughly 22,800 annointed remaining by the year 2025.
The WT will probably slip in a "Questions From Readers" explaining that the 144,000 started being counted in 1914. The R&F for the most part will see this as NuLite and only a few remaining "thinkers" will catch this and fade...
ok so this was told to the entire congregation by the circuit overseer.
"the society knows the tract work brings hardly any new disciples in.
we get a few good experiences out of it and a few start studies and attend a few meetings.
So this CO is basically saying that handing out literature in Field Circus is an excercise in futility but serves to boost morale in the R&F?
This is yet another typical example of JW oxymorons (meaning this CO is an Ox and a Moron)
this question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know).... did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the true state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the co every 6 months?.
did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a co for fear of being "removed" from the boe?.
(judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during co visits, i have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the wt study, book study or fs...).
Anonymous... Diest is right... Also, I'm hoping Diest and I misread what you wrote... what you've brought to light here only serves to give the WT more credibility (whenever they trash so-called "apostates")... what gives?
my wife and i got a letter sent to me stating we are being called before a judical hearing to discuss allegations of apostasy!
we haven't gone to the meeting in 5 years.
are the jw's on a witchhunt lately?
I put up Christmas lights in my backyard (visible from the front of the house) in May of last year... they've been on every night ever since... my wife likes it and that's all that matters to me.
now the watchtower is so named for they keep on the watch right?.
for those of you still in, or that still see the mags, have they ever once even mentioned the "new world order", or one world government or even globalisation?.
ive been on a forum or two where the average joe, who doesnt even belive in, or are not even aware of god, the bible and revelation, are fully aware of the push towards globalisation and a single world government, where you wont be able to buy or sell unless you accept thier chip, of the f.e.m.a.
I know some old-timer JWs in Spanish congos that still use the phrase "Nuevo Orden Mundial" (New World Order)... they can't seem to get this old phrase out of their system for some reason... but they probably have no idea that this has roots in Freemasonry...
this question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know).... did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the true state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the co every 6 months?.
did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a co for fear of being "removed" from the boe?.
(judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during co visits, i have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the wt study, book study or fs...).
So far, that's eight (8) NO's and one (1) YES... very telling...
another post gives the stats that about 20 bethels have closed over the last 2 years.
lets assume that this continues at half the rate in another 10 years there will be few or a dozen bethels left.
if theres no bethel in spain, portugal, france, italy and they all go thru germany what chance does that give jws in those lands to ever get a chance at the big bethel in germany ?
I guess the CO's and DO's currently being "groomed" for the future Governing Body at the NEW Watchtower Headquarters (in Warwick, New York) are part of the THIRD OVERLAPPING GENERATION?
dear brothers and sisters.
are there any families in your home congregation doing it tough?
please consider carefully if your resources may be more needed locally than in brooklyn, new york.. .
awesome "light bulb" moment!!!
thanks for sharing!
