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  WOULD I LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THIS!!!!!!! Resurrection for those executed at Armageddon?

  by GrandmaJones in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  questionsfromreaders.

  the answer to the second question of this section appearing in the november 15 issue drew many responses and further questionings.

  without being dogmatic, it stated that it seemed scriptural to believe that children executed in jehovahs battle of armageddon would not be resurrected.

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  GrandmaJones

  Thank you for the link Black Sheep. Wow, it did say that those killed at Armageddon might come back. Not just kids either! This wasn't changed until 1950!
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  WOULD I LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THIS!!!!!!! Resurrection for those executed at Armageddon?

  by GrandmaJones in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  questionsfromreaders.

  the answer to the second question of this section appearing in the november 15 issue drew many responses and further questionings.

  without being dogmatic, it stated that it seemed scriptural to believe that children executed in jehovahs battle of armageddon would not be resurrected.

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  QuestionsFromReaders

  The answer to the second question of this section appearing in the November 15 issue drew many responses and further questionings. Without being dogmatic, it stated that it seemed Scriptural to believe that children executed in Jehovah’s battle of Armageddon would not be resurrected. Here we consider questions raised.

  ?How does this affect the statement in the Armageddon booklet, on page 55, that not all those executed at Armageddon will remain dead forever?—B.E.,Maryland

  What has been published in the November 15 issue of TheWatchtower represents our present understanding of the matter, and replaces the thought expressed in the 14-year-old booklet Armageddon. We call notice to the fact that before this answer was published in TheWatchtower the same point had been made in “ThisMeansEverlastingLife”, pages 248, 249.

  WT 5/1/1951

  WOULD I LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THIS BOOKLET....THIS IS NEWS TO ME! Anybody know how I can lay my hands (or eyes) on this?
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  Best way to talk to a JW about the Generation Changes

  by wifeofjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to get your advice on how to talk with my husband about the generation changes.

  we have started talking about how it a little.

  i would like to show him the changes using the jw publications.

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  GrandmaJones

  You only really learn when it's your own research. Don't explain it to him. Ask questions. LWT is right....
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  Open relationships, polyamory and swinging

  by techdotcom in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  has anyone else, after leaving the restrictive rules of the jw world, tried having an open marriage, joining the 'lifestyle' of the swinger comunity?

  we've been doing that for about 4-5 months now and it's been an interesting experience, in fact it's been a major distraction from the hell of rebuilding our lives outside the religion and our base of friends.

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  GrandmaJones

  My kindergarten teacher said I didn't share well. I haven't gotten over it.
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  Should Meat Be Eaten on Friday?

  by GrandmaJones in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this great article while browsing through the old cd-rom and i wondered how it would go over with some of my friends and relatives?

  it asks penetrating questions that all honest-hearted ones should be willing to answer, don't you think?

  my comments (i am trying to do the fair use thing correctly) are in red.. should .

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  GrandmaJones

  It was the Awake, 4/22/1970
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  ive been to hospital and had a biopsy taken from a lump in my breast today

  by looloo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was expecting to just get examined then told it was nothing to worry about but i also had a mamogram , then scan .

  the lump i was worried about was ok but the scanner found one behind it that she was not sure about , she took a biopsy from it after i had a local anesthetic and sent me back to the doctor who told me i would now have to wait a week for those results !

  when i had arrived i was told i would be told today if everything is ok !

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  Let's all hope it isn't serious. Take some comfort that by far the large majority of lumps are not cancerous. Breast cancer in the earlier stages is highly treatable, and many women never suffer a recurrence. I will be thinking and praying for you. The waiting for the results is one of the hardest parts. One of my friends just went through this (she is fine, thank goodness) and she went crazy with the wait. Be calm, the odds are in your favor...
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  when is it too late to learn the truth about the troof

  by diamondiiz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wts suckers in many young people who are still naive and trusting and they also sucker in people who are going through some sort of a crisis in their lives.

  but they also prey on old people.

  those who preach no doubt are sincere and believe what they're doing is life saving and all that... but to turn things around, how many here would tell an elderly jw that their religion is a con?

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  GrandmaJones

  Sixty four isn't old. At least not to me.

  I don't think I would tell an older person who didn't have plenty of family outside. Children and grandchildren who were close. Besides, I don't think many old people (really old people) could physically take the angst that I have had to experience. I't been very very hard on me physically.
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  do you miss anything from when you were a jw?

  by Newborn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few of my friends who also used to be jw's, say they miss certain things abt it...i can honestly say that i don't miss a single thing (my sister obviously who's still in but nothing else).. before i could sometimes miss having such a strong belief but that's also gone.

  i guess i've moved on big time.

  /newborn.

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  GrandmaJones

  It is scary, and I miss those things too. But I don't miss the feeling of guilt that came with it. I always felt that somehow I just wasn't making the grade.
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  Should Meat Be Eaten on Friday?

  by GrandmaJones in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this great article while browsing through the old cd-rom and i wondered how it would go over with some of my friends and relatives?

  it asks penetrating questions that all honest-hearted ones should be willing to answer, don't you think?

  my comments (i am trying to do the fair use thing correctly) are in red.. should .

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  GrandmaJones

  I found this great article while browsing through the old cd-rom and I wondered how it would go over with some of my friends and relatives? It asks penetrating questions that all honest-hearted ones should be willing to answer, don't you think? My comments (I am trying to do the fair use thing correctly) are in red.

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  Meat Be Eaten on Friday?

  FOR centuries Catholics abstained from eating meat on Fridays. It was a Church law. Many sincerely believed it was a law of Almighty God. But now this has changed. (Changed? do you mean like the teachings of the Watchtower change? How can teachings change?)

  The fact is that the meatless-Friday rule was made an obligation only some 1,100 years ago. Pope Nicholas I (858-867) was the one who put it into effect. And how vital was it considered that Catholics abide by this rule? (Do you mean it wasn't god who made the rule? Who is the pope to be making rules now?)

  A publication that bears the Catholic imprimatur, indicating approval, states: “The Catholic Church says that it is a mortal sin for a Catholic to eat meat on Friday knowingly and wilfully, without a sufficiently grave and excusing reason.” It adds: The “Church says that if a man dies in unrepented mortal sin, he will go to hell.”—RadioReplies, Rumble and Carty (1938). (An imprimatur? Is it an okay publication to read? Is this like being approved by Brooklyn?)Thus the devout carefully avoided eating meat on Fridays. They sincerely believed that failure to obey could lead to their eternal punishment in a fiery hell. (Now that's just crazy. Surely the pope was only consigning them to Gehenna like the WT?)

  But then, early in 1966, Pope Paul VI authorized local Church officials to modify this abstinence requirement in their countries as they saw fit. The pope was acting in line with recommendations made at the recently completed Second Vatican Council. Thus, in one country after another, meatless Fridays were virtually abolished—in France, Canada, Italy, Mexico, the United States, and so on. (Could they eat meat now as a matter of conscience? Is this like blood fractions? Is this now a matter between you and your local elders?)

  The Effect

  The effect upon many devout Catholics has been devastating. “All these years I thought it was a sin to eat meat,” explained a housewife in the midwestern United States. “Now I suddenly find out it isn’t a sin. That’s hard to understand.” (It is, isn't it? All this time I thought it was a sin to take blood.)

  If you are a Catholic, can you understand how a practice that was considered by the Church a “mortal sin” can suddenly be approved? if it was a sin five years ago, why is it not today? Many Catholics cannot understand. (but Jehovah's Witnesses understand...)

  When a woman in Canada was asked how she felt about the changes in her church, she replied: “I don’t know. Maybe you can tell me. What are they going to do with all those people sent to hell for eating meat on Friday?” (Do you get undisfellowshipped?)

  Not just a few Catholics have asked such questions. The change in teaching has shaken their confidence in the Church. Would you not feel the same way if what you had always been taught to be vital for salvation was suddenly considered unnecessary? Would you not be inclined to question other teachings of your church also? (Not if it were explained as "new light". Someone needs to tell the pope about "new light"!)

  The Catholic Church, however, has not completely changed its position on Friday meat abstinence. Even now Catholics are still required to abstain from eating meat on “Good Friday.” Also, in some places they must not eat meat on Fridays during the Lenten season. (I understand...The Jehovah's Witnesses have not completely changed their position on blood, even now they are required to abstain in some instances, using only "fractions".)

  But why is it considered wrong to eat meat on “Good Friday,” but permissible to do so on other Fridays of the year? It has caused thinking persons to wonder. (Yes, it has.)

  Many persons have begun to ask questions regarding the basis for this teaching, as well as about other Church teachings. And what especially disturbs them is that they have not received satisfying answers. (Really, the Catholics should be obliged to provide satisfying answers, don't you think?)

  What Becomes Evident

  The inability of the Church to explain its position Scripturally makes evident an important fact: The Catholic Church has not based its teachings upon what God’s Word says. Rather, it has founded many of its beliefs and practices on the unstable traditions of men. (Those popes were very unstable, you just couldn't trust'em, the Catholics should really have been looking closer at the bible!)

  This is obviously true with regard to Friday meat abstinence. For, look as you may, nowhere in the Bible will you find that Christians were ever instructed to refrain from eating meat on any Friday of the year, or on any other day. It is not a requirement of God. In fact, the Catholic edition of the Revised Standard Version Bible says that enjoining or commanding “abstinence from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving” is an evidence of a departure from the faith.—1 Tim. 4:1-4. (See? They should have only been observing the requirements actually in the bible!)

  Thus, many truth-seekers are having their eyes opened to see that the Catholic Church has not been holding strictly to God’s Word. And they are wondering whether any religion that does not do so is worthy of their confidence and support. (Yeah, those Catholics should wonder. It's important to notice if the Church is not holding strictly to God's word.)

  Speaking for myself, I am glad we were able to help the Catholics see this....
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  when is it too late to learn the truth about the troof

  by diamondiiz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wts suckers in many young people who are still naive and trusting and they also sucker in people who are going through some sort of a crisis in their lives.

  but they also prey on old people.

  those who preach no doubt are sincere and believe what they're doing is life saving and all that... but to turn things around, how many here would tell an elderly jw that their religion is a con?

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  GrandmaJones

  Hmm, I'm going to have to examine my own double standards on this question.