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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

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  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  Well beks, I would assume since you don't express outrage that you must welcome this type of activity. Sad.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  The main point is that this movement is attempting to police it's own, even though it's much larger and less organized. The TPers made no such attempt, only excuses

  Beks, This is simply false. The tea partiers were vigilant in getting rid of the fringe wackos that showed up with their hateful rhetoric. You and Bizzy have yet to address the or show outrage at the racism showing up at the OWS rallies.

  I would love to see you left-wingers simply demonstrate the equal amount of outrage at the racism evident at the OWS rally as you did at the alleged anti semitism at Tea party rallies.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  The Tea Party was tying HCR to Nazi death camps and doing so graphically.

  I'm sorry, but I fail to see any equivalency whatsoever with OWS.

  This is what you posted several minutes ago, Bizzy.

  Here's what you posted earlier:

  I viewed the clips you posted and I see a small handful of people taking advantage of the OWS movement to express anti-semitic views (and others expressing anti-Israel views, which are not the same thing). I don't see how that tiny sample can define a movement which, as yet, does not have a single, unifying, articulated message.

  My question to you, bizzy is simple. Why did you want Tea partiers to express outrage at someone's graphic and tasteless reference to the holocaust even though, as you said in the quote I've highlighted in yellow, that a tiny sample can't define a movement? By your own standards, I would expect you to express outrage at the anti-semitic rhetoric spewing from people in the OWS movement.

  And the fact that some observe Jewish holy days doesn't mean there isn't anti-semitism evident, does it? You've seen the proof of the racist rhetoric, and yet you give thumbs up to someone pointing out that some people observed Jewish traditions as if that proves your point? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FROM YOU CONCERNING THE ANTI JEW FORCES IN THE OWS MOVEMENT. Are you denying it exists, or are you just not going to address it, or are you not outraged because you agree with it?
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  HOw about this, bizzy that you posted a year ago? Where is your outrage at the OWS protests? Or have you had a change of heart? Post 4806 of 7672 Since 1/9/2006

  ADGRPID:|SERVTYPE: This is outrageous. How must Americans of Jewish heritage feel? Finally, teabaggers, have you no sense of decency?
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  First, do you seriously believe that the Occupy movement is about protesting rich people and Jews?

  Bizzy,

  First, see my above post with clips regarding the anti-semitic viewpoints. I don't believe all of them are there protesting Jews, but there is an element who has been welcomed to the OWS movement who clearly are racist Jew haters.

  Second, yes, many of the protestors are protesting rich people, rich corporations, and banks. I'm not saying some of them don't have good points, I'm saying they don't have a clear message.

  Third, you didn't address my question posed to you in response to your assertion that the protests have been effective. How do you define effective?

  by the way bizzy, I haven't had an opportunity to mix it up with you for a while....I hope you are doing well.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  Bizzy said:

  OWS is certainly not being ignored, as is proven by this thread alone. And it is therefore, by demonstration, effective.

  Bizzy: What have they been effective in doing? What have they accomplished? getting publicity? is that all? People are talking about them? There is more to being effective than getting attention. They have not articulated a consistent solution to all the grievances they want addressed. They aren't even consistent as to what grievances they have. I agree with some of what some of them are saying such as being against TARP and bailouts. If a company or a bank are too big to fail, they are too big. They deserve to fail. But they can't agree on what the problem is in the first place except that they think rich people are bad, and the Jews are part of the problem. There are simply too many voices saying too many different things. They have not been effective at getting a message out, and that is their objective. How would you define effective?
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  There will always be fringe groups and crazies trying to horn in on a cause, just to get their 2 cents in.

  BOTR said they would be there to show solidarity.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  Do the protestors hate Hungarian Hedge fund managers too, or is it only Jewish hedge fund managers?
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  BOTR Said:

  I am a proud liberal! Within the new few weeks, I am going to Wall Street to show my solidarity.

  Oh really! Solidarity, huh. Do you really want to show solidarity with these people? I feel pity for you.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlRQCPJcew

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q55OAozWeNo&feature=related

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjm4LxFa1c
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  I'm very conservative, but I am all for people protesting. The Wall Street protestors, though, do not have a message. There is no clear, understandable message they are articulating. It's an amalgam of viewpoints and isn't really effetive.

  Actually, many of them have more in common with the tea party than a lot of people seem to think. The tea-party doesn't like government intervention, and basically developed in response to Obamacare and TARP and the bail outs. The Wall Street protestors may be in favor of Obamacare, but many seem to be opposed to the TARP and the bank and automaker bail outs. Just like the tea party.

  Their biggest problem is they've attracted a bunch of people who have their own fringe agendas they are trying to pursue. From anti-semetic rhetoric to legalizing marijuana to animal rights activism, they are offering no solutions, and all the differing views being shouted are just creating confusion and no focus.

  I wonder how many of the occupiers actually pay income taxes themselves. Is there data on that?