as long as it is a secular wedding and NOT in a church or officiated by a member of the clergy, you're clear. To be in a wedding in a church officiated by a member of the clergy is viewed as taking part in false religious practices and it is a disfellowshipping offense. I was in my brother's wedding in an Episcopal church. I was still a JW at the time (though not active). It was one of the things I eventually got DF'd for.
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I think I know the answer, but can I be in a "worldly wedding"?
by ex360shipper inwell for those of you who don't know i am on the long slow fade.
i do not go to meetings at all anymore, it has been 10 months since i last stepped foot in a kh, went to dc last year and will go to memorial for my mother.. good friend of mine, catholic, told me he is popping the question monday.
i know it will be in a catholic church.
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Does anyone else love Willie and Kris but miss Johnny and Waylon?
by dinah ingot to following a post and ran into ol' kris.
they don't write songs like that anymore..
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I loved all those guys. I really liked them individually and didn't care much for the "Highwaymen" group. I got to see Willie in concert a few months ago. Absolutely the best show I've ever been to. Just him, his guitar, a snare drum, bass, harmonica, and his sister on piano.
I grew up on Waylon, Willie, Kris, and Johnny. Some of the best music ever. As a songwriter myself, I have always tried to emulate Kris' writing style. He could write in a way that made you visualize what he was saying. Almost like a movie in your mind.
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Ellen DeGeneres Addresses Her JCPenney Critics
by whereami inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_znktttaxcs&sns=em.
about time good ol' bill gets it right:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhevu64pzsa&sns=em.
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I don't think Ellen is all that funny. I don't particularly care for her. I don't think Jim Carey is funny either. But any company can hire anyone they want to sell their products. If you don't like it, don't shop there.
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Reply from the branch on our e-mail action last summer
by Anony Mous inthis was the official reply after i had sent an e-mail to a lot of elders in the us through their own mailing lists (hundreds of key members of the jw hierarchy in all 55 states were hit).
june 21, 2011. .
from the us branch office.
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What was the original email?
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee inthw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
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I knew two. One was a pioneer who had a part on the CA the Saturday before he hanged himself from a bridge in north-central Indiana.
Another I grew up with who OD'd intentionally about a year ago. Funerals both by elders.
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Draconian Rules for Attending "Special Convention"
by BluesBrother inbritish dubs are invited to attend a special convention next summer in dublin , irish republic.
o k, this kind of trip has been done many times before.
however i have never seen such a crude and rigid set of rules that would apply to their own people going on a trip, at their own expense of course.
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Maybe I should know this, but I'm not familiar with a "Special Convention." I've been to each and every DC held when I was in, and to a couple International conventions, but I don't remember the term "Special Convention" Could someone explain what it is?
I am astounded by the ridiculous stipulations!!! No one who needs wheelchairs or oxygen???? You must pay for a 7 day stay???
The rules for the DC was one thing (It was a composite "thing") that started my thinking. I didn't like being told I couldn't buy food from a vendor, that I had to wait to cross the road until the pimply faced kid told me I could cross, that I couldn't stand in the aisle with my infant son to watch the drama, to be told to take my seat by some MS wannabe with an "Attendant" tag on, while the PO from my mom and dad's congregation spent most of the convention time in the concourse chatting it up with old friends of his.
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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Welcome MsGrowingGirl!
I love these threads!!! Many of us on this board are former pioneers, MS's, Elders, even a few special pioneers and gilead graduates. CofC was a real eye-opener for me about some things, but what really put me over the edge was In Search of Christian Freedom.
Again, Welcome!!! It's great to have you here!!
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Jehovahs Witness Information For Indianapolis
by Tofayel in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> </w:worddocument> </xml><!
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[endif]now people are strongly organized against jehovahs witnesses in indianapolis.
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The website the OP links to is stupid. There is a list of towns on the left. What is strange is when you click on a city, you get the EXACT same site. What's the point of the links to different cities.
2Tone: I am also in Indy (Carmel actually) and I agree. There's nothing that says Indy is dedicated to protecting children. The only thing we seem dedicated to right now is the upcoming Superbowl.
Anway, I know nearly each of the individuals in the website that is linked in the OP. Bob Edinger, as far as I know, is a very good man. I remember seeing him at a DC and he spoke to me and my wife at the time. Her mother was disfellowshipped and he told her: "Tell her we love her, and we miss her." That has always stuck with me.
Steve Steuer and Chuck Davis are also good individuals. Perhaps misguided as we all were, but good men.
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University after leaving the Watchtower?
by SweetBabyCheezits inhello, you sexy sassy posters of jwn.
i'm starting this thread in the hopes of finding... uh, hope.... and sharing it with others who are in a similar boat.
i'm looking for input from anyone who meets the following criteria:.
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- raised by devout JWs
- skipped university after high school due to WT propaganda
- got married and had one or more kids
- woke up later and left the WT
- decided to invest in a real university education
- not made of time or money
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes.
My brother (Twin) was the first of us to go to college. He ended up getting his law degree and currently is a prosecutor. I remember talking with him in my car when he visited and telling him he sounded like an apostate. It turns out he was just ahead of me by about ten years. I started going to night classes a number of years ago, then quit. I have since restarted my education, and have two years to go to be a full fledged engineer. It is a sacrafice of time due to the studying and papers to write, but absolutely worth it. My son quit going to the meetings about two years ago (he's now 18) and he sees the flaws in the org. He was baptized when he was 12. I am trying to get him to go to college when he graduates this spring. Fortunately, though, he isn't going to serve the WTBTS until his early 30's before waking up like his dad did.
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Jehovahs Witness Information For Evansville
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Tofayel- You have a PM