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  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  Spade

  "Has it been established whether or not Spade is Alice?

  Spade, do you embrace all of the teachings as they are presented and believe the folks in Brooklyn are steering the masses correctly?"

  I simply have an open mind towards Jehovah's Witnesses and take the defense as most people here take the offense. In today’s world I could hardly characterize them as a criminal organization. There may be a rigorous deconversion process for those that leave, but change, a reverse from whole souled devotion to any cause is never easy.
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  147

  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  Spade

  "Fair enough, but let me ask you.........you communicating and associating with a board full of apostates doesn't quite fit in with the paradigm of genuine believing Jehovah's Witness either, so how do you justify that?"

  I periodically attend their meetings. The forum's invention:
  
  "Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum for Jehovahs Witnesses
  
  The place to discuss anything relating to Jehovah's Witnesses and the WatchTower Bible and Tract Society... or just make new friends!"
  
  If a dedicated Witness came here they would just have people tell them to f—k off.
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  147

  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  Spade

  There's no reason to hate Jehovah's Witnesses. I've found them as individuals to be delightful and pleasant to get to know. This opinion is not just taken at face value. The teachings and practices that some find controversial come directly from the Bible; the same book that's supposed to be the foundation of Christianity. From a secular position, they're simply more orthodox to the Bible's regiment than other Christian denominations, which is something you can hardly blame them for.
  
  Religion has been rejected by many people for its resistance to scientific progress, its dismal record, and its hypocrisy and cruelty. Some may try and associate JWs with this track record but they really don't collectively fit into this paradigm.
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  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  Spade

  "And that is the whole point. They make a distinction without a difference. We are to TREAT them as infallible although they admit that they are NOT infallible. They are playing on both sides of the fence."

  This sizes it up rather well.

  je p. 26 Shepherding God’s Flock in Unity

  The Governing Body consists of a group of anointed Christian men (13 in 1986), including 7 serving on the board of directors of the Watch Tower Society. These preside over the worldwide activities of Jehovah’s Witnesses. They are not inspired by God and hence are not infallible, but they rely on God’s infallible Word as the highest authority on earth, and have a lifetime of experience in submitting to God’s will. Each has a record of more than 40 years in the full-time ministry with Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  Just about all organizations have some sort of administration for the purposes of remaining united. I haven't noticed that the administrative position has sidestepped their initial purpose or infringed on the freedoms of others. I don't submit to the governing body. I don't even know their names.
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  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  Spade

  

  Sorry you see it that way...
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  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  Spade

  "So are you admiting that you are Alice, Spade?"

  I'm admitting nothing. People can make whatever generalization; but a mandatory profile or photo ID wasn't a membership requirement. I don't have to, nor is there the means to prove who I am here.
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  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  Spade

  "Do you realise you just gave a reason..For your account to be Terminated..AGAIN..

  This must be at least your 4th account on JWN..It really doesn`t matter what name you use..

  Your easy to spot..

  Your not a smart person.."

  You're the one that initiated profanity and obscenity by posting trashy pictures. You come across as jaded. You are a porn fiene are you not?
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  95

  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  Spade

  "If you pull it all together into one concise statement of policy it is apparent that The Watchtower Society is governed by persons who:
  1.Are not inspired
  2.Are not prophets
  3.Are eager to suggest dates which turn out to be wrong
  4.Are historically compelled by error to make corrections
  5.Do not consider themselves dogmatic but compel their members to follow their pronouncements without question
  6.Consider what they publish to be direction from Jehovah as ministered by Jesus Christ and yet cannot make true statements free from error.
  7.Are the only True religion filled with a history of mistakes, wrong predictions, faulty understanding requiring adjusments and on a progressive path to pure worship while constantly changing course which sometimes includes doubling back to a former belief." Divine inspiration is a direct line of communication; meaning God directly instills in the mind of a man his own pronouncements. Wouldn't be a bit unequivalent if the men preparing these publications were inspired and infallible? What about everyone else? Who really cares to follow the lead of a man just because he's inspired? God's spirit isn't the seal of infallibility, but such help enables the ability to recall Jesus’ instructions and teachings, to clarify points of doctrine, and to be progressively guided “into all the truth” revealed to them. The same spirit is said to be shared amongst all of Jehovah's Witnesses and this can be put to the test by any given person. This is obviously something that has been rejected by some former Jehovah's Witnesses, but I haven't come across a reason to have a closed mind to JWs.
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  95

  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  Spade

  "Same old Cut and Paste..

  Make shit up and hope somebody believes you..

  AliceIn Wonder Spade GlueLand.."

  Outlaw's a nasty porn freak. Same old idiot personal attacks.

  "3. Swearing, using hate-speech or making obscene or vulgar comments."

  It would be nice if the mangy mutt would stay off my threads.
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  95

  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  Spade

  There's a difference in having the gift of prophecy in the context of predicting future events or a prophet that declares glad tidings and good news from a divine source.

  it-2 p. 694 Prophet

  The Greek pro·phe′tes literally means “a speaker out [Gr., pro, “before” or “in front of,” and phe·mi′, “say”]” and thus describes a proclaimer, one who makes known messages attributed to a divine source.
  
  The original etymology of the Greek term for a prophet can be found in a Greek Lexicon:

  Prophetes - Greek Lexicon

  http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=4396

  1. In Greek writings, an interpreter of oracles or of other hidden things
  2. one who, moved by the Spirit of God and hence his organ or spokesman, solemnly declares to men what he has received by inspiration, especially concerning future events, and in particular such as relate to the cause and kingdom of God and to human salvation

  e. of men filled with the Spirit of God, who by God's authority and command in words of weight pleads the cause of God and urges salvation of men

  The Watchtower Society has been more definitive (especially in later years) about the concept of prophecy and how it applies to them. Those who label them false prophets generally disagree with their overall message. You can still disagree without placing some sort of label on them. Their predictions about the future always revolved around Armageddon. This seems to be the real issue to people; more so than a mistaken viewpoint about when specifically it will actually come.