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  IS the bOrg running out of blokes to serve(tm)?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  from the silly website today..... thursday, august 15god .

  energizes you, giving you both the desire and the power to act.​—phil.

  2:13.courageous men who are willing to take on more responsibility are a blessing to a congregation.

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  Giordano

  Interesting points Tate.

  Apparently little to no appeal to serve for the more qualified. The whole Society thing is passing the congregations by.

  Most churches in the USA are run by two or three people. That way they manage to keep the jerks out of the mix and give real volunteers regardless of sex some level of responsibility.

  In the JW world the qualified sisters are not used.

  Back in the day when I pioneered where the 'need was great' I served in a very small congregation in NW Pennsylvania of some 20 adults (children didn't count).

  There were at least three sisters that had many years of service who could have been appointed to positions in that small congregation.

  Instead there was the Presiding Minister and me. My role was described this way: I was the Assn't Presiding Minister, the Ministry School Servant, the Bible Study Servant ......when I wasn't giving the weekly one hour public talk somewhere in our large (area) circuit. And the Publishing Servant (handing out the magazines and books) and assigning territories for the door to door activity.

  The three qualified sisters sweep the floor and cleaned the bathrooms.

  Need I say more?

  When I and my wife left the area I realized what a farce the organized WT was and that it was doomed. The door to door service was also a farce. When we knocked on a screen door in the summer what you heard on a weekend was the TV or radio tuned into one of those evangelism shows.

  Back then the Society spent it's time on publishing books and magazines. Then legal problems and selling it's stock of Kingdom Halls after stealing them from the JW's who built and paid for their KH over some fifty plus years.

  It's pretty much over for the JW's. They are now going down the pathway of the Christian Scientists..... who are down to 50,000 or so CS's and a bunch of empty store fronts and churches.

  It's By By time for the WTBTS. See you......... wouldn't want to be you. It's now Court and settlement time for the WTBTS. After that....... nothing.
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  Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

  nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

  eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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  Giordano

  Punkofnice two thumbs up re drunken old fart(s)!

  "Could I get a discount if I buy 10 or 12 bottles? A lot of thirsty folks where I live." Here's my credit card.... yes it says ' world Headquarters of the WTBTS'. You've never heard of us......??
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  Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

  nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

  eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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  Giordano

  If you have young children at home the last thing you want is a Catholic Priest knocking at your door. Sorry but that is the reality these days and the next last person knocking on a door that you really don't want to talk with........ is a JW.

  The Scientologists aren't interested in knocking on doors as they are bankrupting themselves as they try to master another 'level' and spend thousands of dollars on their pipe dream. Biggest bunch of dummies since the Christen Scientists and Jehovah's Witnesses.

  The Mormons are still doing door to door work.Most of them don't know that their leader Joseph Smith had 30 wives. What the hell was his rotation schedule like?

  If Jesus is coming back he's probably going to show up in Utah. Live with it!
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  Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

  nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

  eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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  Giordano

  Do you have any idea how many religious people come on this site and try to offer their slightly different version of their JW learned beliefs?

  And how many wannabe believers run away with their tail between their legs? Each and every one of them. The only ones that can stay......... manage to stop being assholes or holy rollers or true believers etc. They either keep it under raps or they are gone.

  Why? Because within this membership, on just this forum, there are collectively thousands of years of past JW experience and inside Society knowledge. We know the bible better then the opposition. You are surrounded by ex pioneers, Elders, servants,ex Bethelites, people in this piss poor excuse of a religion who were in for decades.

  Until they woke up.

  We understand the nature of high control ignorant religions and cults.

  You have no concept of what many of us experienced, marriages and normal contact with one's family torn apart thanks to the WTBTS and their monkey rules and regulations.

  Now they are starting to tear themselves apart. Law suites.... bodies piling up because they can't handle their pedophile issues or killing people off because of a life saving blood transfusion.

  They are as dumb as Christian Scientists, as controlling as Scientology, as big a con as the Mormons.
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  hey i'm new here

  by damienexists in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo, my name is damien, i'm a trans teenager, and i'm a non practicing jehovah's witness, or deist.

  i came here to find other people like me and also to ask if i can be a practicing jehovah's witness and be trans?

  or would i have to say i'm cis and hope they believe me?.

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  Giordano

  Hi Damien,

  I agree with most of the above comments.

  Living in a body that has rejected certain qualities would be a nightmare. You must be yourself and everything else needs to be put aside. And that includes the WTBTS.

  Being a JW is a waste of your time as it was for myself......... and while I understand family ties......... in the long run it's not about the families we were born into it's about the friends we make, the person we want to live with and the good we can do that counts.

  My pioneer partner (female) is still my best friend and lover for the last 57 years.

  I am now an old grumpy grandpa but still happy about the choices we made in our life together.

  Believe me when I say living on a paradise earth built on the bones of billions of people is not an acceptable choice.

  As boring and narrow thinking the Society is......... who would want to submit to their rule?
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  Ridiculous refusion of blood transfusions

  by Uditha Jayatunga in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i had an encounter with a jehova's witness at my doorstep.

  i challenged them on blood transfusions.

  later i looked at jw website too.

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  Giordano

  Lets understand the reality....re blood transfusions.

  A JW lack of education for the most part....was ignored to develop a life or death understanding using a non scientific approach about blood transfusions. By people who for the most part had no higher learning then high school.

  It was all about 'eating blood'......... In doing so they referenced the word's of a doctor......... one doctor.... Deny's...... who wrote.... ‘In performing transfusion it is nothing else than nourishing by a shorter road than ordinary – that is to say, placing in the veins blood all made in place of taking food which only turns to blood after several changes.’” (The Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1961, p. 558)

  What the Society did not tell its readers, is that this doctor, Jean Baptiste Denys, lived in the 17th century. (It turns out that Dr. Denys never said the words attributed to him by the Watchtower).

  Medical science long ago abandoned this idea. Later, the Society tried to appeal to another authority, the Dane...... Thomas Bartholin, but now they at least admit he also lived in the 17th century.

  Why has the WTS found no support for this peculiar idea among more recent medical experts? Because there are none. Not even the medical doctors who are themselves Jehovah’s Witnesses will ruin their reputation by supporting this claim.

  A blood transfusion has nothing to do with eating blood which would be drinking blood.

  A blood Transfusion is identical to a transplant which the society, after a ban of some 11 years, now permits.

  They got it wrong and a good thousand JW;s more or less die every year since 1945.

  Ignorance is another factor. JW's tend not be well educated so when they go into a hospital and it can be over whelming. But Ignorance breeds ignorance.

  The Society lied and JW's died.

  Quotes from the bible that God instructed Noah about the sanctity of blood had no bearing on the right or wrong of a god who needed to kill everyone but a select small group who escaped the great flood.

  This murderous conduct overlooked honest and decent people. Couples bonded together, the old and young, the little children and the unborn. It wasn't a wicked world probably no worse then what came after. Oddly enough God murdered the unborn. He drowned the mother and the unborn.

  The real intent of the Society was to pretend that the JWs were special as they were the only ones ready to give up their lives, if necessary, because blood was so important that Jesus never mentioned it.
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  Funerals

  by Theonlyoneleft in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have a question about a not so spoken subject.

  so if you feel inappropriate please feel free to ignore me!

  has anyone given a thought about what they would like for their funeral one day?.

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  Giordano

  Two thoughts: one is a letter sent to our local newspaper that lists the wrongs of the JW construct. The two witness rule that is applied to child sexual abuse. The stupidity of Elders and the HLC. The stupidity of the GB and blood. Armageddon and a longing to see the human population die with the exception of the JW's.

  There is a monster within the JW world and it needs to be revealed.

  And oh by the way...... those nice JW's who knock on your door are simply checking out your home to see if it's good enough to move into after Armageddon.

  All this crap the JW have developed over the years is now an embarrassment of ignorance.

  The second is to hold an open house to demonstrate that we set a different course...... a different life style. We lived a good life and did what needed to be done for family, friends and our community.

  Our Volunteering was out of respect for our small city and the great 'worldly' friendships we have maintained these last 20 years.

  No believing JW needs to attend. No one who shunned us........ needs to attend.

  Their will be an 'open bar' and good food and great conversation and laughter.
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  Child Sexual Abuse in the Catholic Church is in decline.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the number of child abuse cases in the catholic church is in decline apparently.

  is the same thing true in the wts?

  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201908/top-10-myths-about-clergy-abuse-in-the-catholic-church .

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  Giordano

  I think his reasoning and numbers are somewhat self serving. Be it 3% or 6% the damage is far more important then the act itself. Since the 1980's things have improved? No way.......... as we learn about more and more abuse.

  Trust issues be it a JW , a Priest, Rabbi or family member is a serious part of any physical abuse. The body can heal but what about the brain?
  

  Going back to the Catholic church it has allowed it's priests and nuns to sexually abuse children for well over 17 hundred years. Shame on them and anyone who looks away.

  And apart from Jesus throwing out a bone "do not hinder the children coming to me!" That idiot said nothing about sexual child abuse nor slavery which certainly allows for wide spread sexual abuse.

  For a high percentage of actual child abusers it's an un-treatable disease.
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  YouTuber Telltale's visit to JW World HQ

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just saw this new video and am very excited to listen to it but thought i would post it here for any others that also might like to watch it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3305c_cf6im.

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  Giordano

  The ignorance of a JW is fanned by the ignorance of their beliefs.

  As far as I know....... only the Mormons have made their special brand of ignorance...... work for them. Though it cost them dearly when the Mormon rank and file finally learned that Joseph Smith had thirty wives.

  You really have to be sub par to be a believing Jehovah's Witness or a Mormon or a Christian Scientist or a Scientologist. The later two are totally dreadful religions that are thankfully dying.

  So what are the sub par beliefs of the JW's.

  1. That most of mankind will be violently killed at Armageddon. Then go through another judgment a 1000 years later. Apparently God is trying to find a few righteous individuals and keeps coming up short.

  2. That a Paradise earth can be built on the bones of the dead.

  3. That the Society itself...... 7 or 8 numb nuts can administer a dead planet with a few million people who survived.

  4. That the lack of an education will make it very difficult to accomplish much of anything.

  5. Apart from petting wild animals it will be just another dark age for mankind.

  6. Suicides will be more difficult in a perfect world (that one is kinda dark).

  7. Just as always there will be nothing for the children but farm labor. When they grow up they will be as ignorant as their parents.

  8. That a perfect world is the enemy of a good world.
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  Weird Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it my imagination or are most witnesses weird, odd, and “different “?

  it seems every congregation has a couple of weirdo elders, pioneers and ministerial servants.

  and then you see those witnesses who attend meetings but most people seldom associate with them because... they are eccentric..

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  Giordano

  I was in the cult at the age of thirteen until 22. Thank you Mom....not.

  I have no known social problems. Other then I am overly kind........ apart from that I get along with everyone in our community.

  I am actually worried about that because I don't have any enemies which means that I don't have strong positions. However I do have strong positions re Anti JW's and every other religion or political positions or idiots like Donald Trump. Lets throw in the Catholic Church and Republican party as well.

  When we have our annual 'welcome to the New Year Day party' I have to manage the food and drinks for two hundred visitors.

  But I always questioned the assumption.... that I am a success. That doubt doesn't spring from being a JW as I was led in to participate and unlike you........ got out at a very early age and became a successful citizen of this great country.....USA forever!

  What......... me worry about our social life? Not at all. I am as normal as rain.