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  Connecticut Law Tribune: Latest Sex Abuse Suits Target J.Ws

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.ctlawtribune.com/id=1202673073702/latest-sex-abuse-suits-target-jehovahs-witnesses?slreturn=20140911103232#ixzz3fqvmacjslatest sex abuse suits target jehovah's witnessesattorneys say religious doctrine barred reports of abuse.

  isaac avilucea, .

  the connecticut law tribuneoctober 10, 2014 | .

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  And still no apology from the Governing Body.
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  tv.jw.org Female Presenters?

  by jw07 in

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  4thGen, I am curious about the video's from 'On the scene with Brooklyn'. I doubt that they were made by jw org but it is very likely that it had the backing of the Covention overseer.

  Comments are disabled, which is no surprise but i made a comment on one of her other video's. It was spotted by a JW who replied. This is the conversation so far and has not been deleted yet.

  I saw your convention video and I thought for a moment that you may have been a JW but after seeing your other video's I was wondering if you are or aren't. Some of your clothes are very revealing and low cut, I was personally counselled by the Elders about my clothes when I was 18 and they were nowhere near as revealing as yours. Have things changed and the moral standards just slipped?

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  Reply · View all 2 replies blueh2obender 1 week ago That's a personal question that should have been ask in a more polite and tactful manner if not at all. As a witness myself i feel that your question was confrontational, please in future keep your opinion about others clothing choices and moral choices to yourself. Do you not listen to meetings to be peaceful, polite and kind Christians. Keep in mind this is the internet and everyone will see your comments, would this be something you ask a stranger that walked into a kingdom hall? Our conduct everywhere reflects ultimately on Jehovah's name, think before you act.
  Proverbs 27:11 "Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, So that I can make a reply to him who taunts me." Read more Show less Reply · RiverDanube 16 hours ago + blueh2obender I asked a question about the moral standards in the Kingdom Hall and you reply that this is a personal question. That is quite strange as the congregations do set standards for dress. One of the Governing Body members just gave a talk in France deriding some of the brothers for wearing fashionable tight pants. My question is not out of line at all. This is a public website and is accessed by many people and most JWs who present themselves on these video's would reflect on their clothing and moral choices as they understand that their conduct reflects ultimately on Jehovah's name.
  There is nothing wrong with me expressing an opinion about someone's clothing. I cannot see how I was not polite or tactful As a matter of fact, I like her clothes, they are very modern and revealing, without being tacky. You have jumped to some weird conclusions, is this normal behaviour of the JWs?. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ZEfDFhTbU
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  GB bitch-slap all apostates with TV.JW.ORG

  by gopher123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with the launch of tv.jw.org, doesn't this mean that the apostates have won the battles, but finally lost the war?

  ezekiel 38 states that in the time of the end, god's people would be prospering with "silver & gold.".

  "kiss da rings" bitch!!!.

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  Interesting story Dwain. On the other hand this demonstrates how bad the organization can be when it comes to planning. They come off as being impatient and unable to plan adequetly by allowing sufficient time.
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  Well, it was your basic KH wedding, now 40 years later

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife and i still like each other.

  fortieth is "ruby.

  " since rubies aren't in the budget, we went to ruby beach for the weekend.

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  Congratulations and what a wonderful way to celebrate it, very romantic.
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  JW.Org Signs For Sales

  by Bangalore in

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  2. friends

  check it out.. .

  http://khsignage.com/jworg-signs.html.

  bangalore.

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  They are a subsidiary of Bella Teres LLC. Their main website appears to be under construction but Linkedin reports this information

  Bella Teres LLC is a design firm for complete Branding Solutions. Branding a company involves more than Logos, Business cards and Letterhead. A complete branding solution begins with the intial logo and/or brand design then eventually extends to print/marketing collateral, digital media, interior and exterior campus signage and in some cases Community Branding.
  
  We are proud of our team of experienced designers in sign, mechanical, graphic, digital media and web design, to advise and assist in providing complete solutions for each client. Our designers use their expertise to create a lasting visual impression for your company.
  
  Divisions and Subsidiaries:
  - KH Signage
  - The "Gift to the City" Program

  Specialties

  Corporate Branding Solutions, Digital Media Design, Graphic Design, Sign Design + Build, Print/Marketing Media Design

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    http://www.BellaTeres.com

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    Design

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    Privately Held

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    1-10 employees

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  Watchtower Takes in $2 Million Conditional Loan and Won't Return the Loan, Is it True?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard several stories of the watchtower taking in loans and donations given by rich witnesses who have fallen on to hard times and asked for the money back and the watchtower won't return the money.

  have you ever heard of the watchtower only paying the money back on "conditional loans" once legal experts get invovled?

  one of the stories that is around is a family donated a large chunk of their nest-egg to the watchtower and the husband got sick and the branch refused to contact him when he asked for his conditional donation back, would the watchtower screw people out of their money?

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  It isn't going to be hard very hard to try and convince someone who has already conditionaly donated a huge chunk of money into letting them keep it. They must be very gullible to start with.
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  Thanks BLONDIE !!!

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whenever i need to find a watchtower quote in a hurry i hop over to jwn real quick and do a topic search knowing blondie will have posted exactly what i'm looking for.. .

  thanks for your diligence, .

  it really helps!.

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  Thanks Blondie.
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  School for Congregation Elders

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

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  2. friends

  i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.

  i was already divided in my heart to say the least.

  one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.

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  Welcome Paradisebeauty, you ask a very important question and one that we continually try to answer and work out how to help JWs see that this is not right. You quote a statement from the Teach book but the organization want JWs to believe that they are speaking for God, we both know this is not the case and following all the instructions from the GB is not always following God.

  These are some other quotes

  http://www.silentlambs.org/gbcontrol.htm How much Control does the Governing Body and the Leaders of the Watchtower Society have over the average Jehovah's Witnesses? The Watchtower, June 15, 1957 Issue, Page 370: Respond to the directions of the organization as you would the voice of God _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, October 1, 1967 Issue, Page 590: ....[Jehovah's Witnesses] must recognize and accept this appointment of the "faithful and discreet slave" and be submissive to it. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, January 1, 1942 Issue, Page 5: God uses The Watchtower to communicate to his people: it does not consist of men's opinions _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, May 1, 1957 Issue, Page 274: We must recognize not only Jehovah God as our Father but his organization as our Mother. Pages 283-285: Showing respect for Jehovah's organization really resolves itself down to our attitude toward God's visible channel and the trust that we place in our proved, faithful brothers. If we have become thoroughly convinced that this is Jehovah's organization, that he is guiding and directing his people, then we shall not be unsettled by anything that happens. We will not 'forsake our mother's teaching' by immediately beginning to criticize and find fault.... ....gratefully and willingly show our respect for Jehovah's organization, for she is our mother and the beloved wife of our heavenly Father.... _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, June 1, 1982 Issue, Page 20: At times, some bring to the attention of the "slave" class various doctrinal or organizational matters that they feel ought to be revised. Certainly, suggestions for improvement are proper, as are inquiries for clarification. The proper spirit after offering suggestions is to be content to leave the matter to the prayerful consideration of the mature brothers directing the work in Jehovah's organization. But if those making the suggestions are not content with that and continue to dispute the subject in the congregations with a view to getting others to support them, what then? That would create divisions, and could subvert the faith of some. So Paul counsels: "Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them." Paul also counseled Titus to "reprove those who contradict," adding: "It is necessary to shut the mouths of these, as these very men keep on subverting entire households by teaching things they ought not.... For this very cause keep on reproving them with severity." -Romans 16:17, 18; Titus 1:9-13. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, August 1, 1967 Issue, Pages 469-470: It is true that some points are difficult to grasp at first, but instead of complaining or arguing about them.... it may be better to leave it alone for a while, waiting further clarification.... ....we must avoid complaining even about small things.... _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, February 1, 1952 Issue, Pages 79-80: If we do not see a point at first we should keep trying to grasp it, rather than opposing and rejecting it and presumptuously taking the position that we are more likely to be right than the discreet slave. We should meekly go along with the Lord's theocratic organization and wait for further clarification.... _____________________________________________________ Qualified to be Ministers Book (Published in 1955), Page 156: If we have love for Jehovah and for the organization of his people we shall not be suspicious, but shall, as the Bible says, 'Believe all things,' all the things that the Watchtower brings out, in as much as it has been faithful in giving us knowledge of God's purposes.... _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, June 1, 1955 Issue, Page 333: ....today the power of appointment of all servants in congregations rightfully rests with the governing body of the "faithful and discreet slave" class, which is under the direct supervision of Christ Jesus at the temple. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, June 1, 1956 Issue, Page 345: Newcomers must learn to fall in line with the principles and policies of the New World society and act in harmony with them. Sometimes it becomes rather difficult for some of our new associates to make the change. They are prone to be a little rebellious or unruly. But to become genuinely a part of the New World society it is Imperative that proper respect for theocratic arrangement and order be shown. A humble, obedient mental attitude is required. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, October 1, 1967 Issue, Page 587: ....the Bible cannot be properly understood without Jehovah's visible organization in mind. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, June 1, 1985 Issue, Page 20: Although walking with confidence in Jehovah's leadership may not be easy at times...To turn away from Jehovah and his organization, to spurn the direction of the 'faithful and discreet slave,' and to rely simply on personal Bible reading and interpretation is to become like a solitary tree in a parched land. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, January 15, 1983 Issue, Page 22: Avoid Independent Thinking Avoid.... questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization. How is such independent thinking manifested? A common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, January 15, 1983 Issue, Page 27: ....some who point out that the organization has had to make some adjustments before, and so they argue: "This shows that we have to make up our own mind on what to believe." This is independent thinking. Why is it so dan gerous? Fight against independent thinking. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, March 15, 1986 Issue, Page 17: Beware of those who try to put forward their own contrary opinions. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, July 1, 1994 Issue, Pages 12-13: As loyal servants of Jehovah, why would we even want to peek at the propaganda put out by rejecters of Jehovah's table.... _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, August 1, 1960 Issue, Page 474: Jehovah's witnesses, though international, are 'one heart and soul,' of the 'same mind' and the 'same line of though.' _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, June 1, 1967 Issue, Page 338: ....in Jehovah's organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organization who are assigned to that very thing.... _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, August 1, 1972 Issue, Page 458: ....the Watchtower study conductor, who presides over this meeting, has an important responsibility. This study enables all to be united in the same line of thought. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, August 1, 1980 Issue, Page 19: Thus, the one who doubts to the point of becoming an apostate sets himself up as a judge. He thinks he knows better than his fellow Christians, better also than the 'faithful and discreet slave,' through whom he has learned the best part, if not all that he knows about Jehovah God and his purposes. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, February 1, 1987 Issue, Page 19: First of all, there is the matter of being obedient and ready to respond to encouragement. When direction and encouragement come from the proper source, it is only right that we should respond readily. We also remember that one feature of 'the wisdom from above' is being 'ready to obey.' (James 3:17) These are qualities that all Christians are encouraged to put on. Due to background and upbringing, some may be more given to independent thinking and self-will than others. Perhaps this is an area where we need to discipline ourselves and 'make our mind over' so that we can perceive more clearly what the 'will of God' is. Romans 12:2. _____________________________________________________ The Watchtower, September 15, 1989 Issue, Page 23: "In the world, there is a tendency to reject leadership. As one lecturer said: ;'The rising education level has improved the talent pool such that followers have become so critical that they are almost impossible to lead.' But a spirit of independent thinking does not prevail in God's organization, and we have sound reasons for confidence in the men taking the lead among us." __________________________________________________________________________

  3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith. 11/15/13 WT page 20, parag 17
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  BORG running low on $$$??

  by fader77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  dear brothers:.

  re: personal literature supply.

  reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released.

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  Any reputable company will do a recall of faulty products and try to remedy the problem. The organizations approach is to get these books out of the dubbies homes so that they can distribute as many of them as they can. They can't have the dubbies destroying their precious products when they personally decide it is not appropriate to give them to the public with 'incorrect' information in them.

  In the past they would have just made a book obsolete and stop printing them, are they so short of writers these days that they have to revise old books?

  We invite each family head to make an assessment

  of his family’s personal supply of literature.

  This is so important not just anyone in the family can do this, it has to be the family head.
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  Failure

  by backformore in

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  2. friends

  so tonight just sucks ad i just want to vent to people who don't know me irl.. my wife and i have two kids.

  i was still in when we got together but my wife never was.

  when we actually got married i moved out of my parents place and never went back to a kingdom hall again.

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  However, we do nothing and I spend the rest of my life feeling like I have lost out on really caring for my own child.

  Having another child makes no difference in this regard but the children you already have are not adults yet and you still have the opportunity to show them now how much you care for them.

  You are already a very fortunate couple to have two children of your very own, a boy and a girl.

  I wish you all the best in whatever decision you both decide.