Posts by Listener

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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.

by Witness 007 in

lindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..

Listener

It is hard to believe that this guy wasn't in jail before the incident.

It is reported

Late last year he was charged with being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife and mother of two.

More recently he was charged with a raft of offences in relation to indecent and sexual assault while operating as a self-proclaimed "spiritual healer" in Sydney's west more than a decade ago.

On Friday, his latest appeal in relation to the sending of letters to deceased Australia soldiers was dismissed by the High Court.

Monis escaped jail time over the incident was sentenced to 300 hours of community service and placed on a two-year good behaviour bond in September 2013.
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/15/10/00/major-police-operation-in-sydneys-martin-place#WQx1uThVx4Xot2IA.99

Apparently he was wearing a backpack during the incident and police were led to believe that he was carrying explosives. Throughout the day's reporting yesterday the media kept repeating how we had the best security enforcement officers in the world and yet there was nothing said or done to prove this.

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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.

by Witness 007 in

lindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..

Listener

Apparently we are a peaceful country according to the Prime Minister, I thinks that translates into the idea of not killing the terrorist in order to prevent any retaliation.

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JWs say, "They don't judge"

by skeeter1 in

what is up with jws?

lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

but, doesn't everyone judge?

Listener

It's not surprising that they are very judgemental. Their witnessing work reinforces this to them personally. It doesn't matter what a householder says and how strongly they are able to support their ideas a JW automatically determines that they are wrong in their thinking if it is not what the org. teaches and will attempt to correct them.

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Is is Muslim terrorist cafe seige Sydney...hundreds of hostages! looks bad.

by Witness 007 in

lindt chocalate cafe martin place in city people pressed against the glass with hands up...this will not end well..

Listener

There are reports that a woman saw the terrorist outside of the cafe and saw him with a gun or pistol, she wasn't sure but she raised the alarm. There are no specifics about this and ABC News are saying that she may have been a policewoman. Apparently, within minutes the police were alerted to the problem and it is possible that the terrorist was diverted from his original plans and holding up people in the cafe was a sudden, unplanned action on his part.

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Nephew going to bethel - seeking seed planting ideas

by azor in

jw
friends

i have posted a handful of times so far.

i am seeking some ideas to plant some seeds with my nephew before he goes to patterson.. a little about me and the going away party where i will have an opportunity to plant these seeds.

i have a little freedom since i am the only relative that he is in communication with that spent some time at bethel.

Listener

I agree with Billy, try to keep up communications with him. Let him know that you're there to give him any advice about the goings on within Bethel or any support that he might need.

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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

by Zoos in

we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

Listener

I believe they used the same idea's that were behind the 1975 date, they just adjusted their figures by 101 years. The 1975 date was based on 6,000 years into the 7th day.

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The Watchtower explains the sheep and the goats

by runForever in

the march 2015 study watchtower finally solves the mystery of the sheep and the goats:.

" first, note that jesus is teaching bymeans of an illustration.

obviously, he isnot talking about separating literal sheepfrom literal goats.".

Listener

The statement is probably written with the idea of making a diversion. Reading the parable without WT's opinion one would conclude that the sheep were both the 'little flock' and 'other sheep'.

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

Listener

Let's carry on with that thought Abiather.

Not only have the JWs been declaring what you say, they have themselves contributed vastly to global pollution by -

Printing millions upon millions of books, magazines and pamphlets, requiring the destruction of millions of trees and all sorts of chemicals. These chemicals, including ink and other waste products have been ploughed back into the earth and finding it's way into water systems. They have been doing this for well over 100 years, the old publications are considered basically worthless even by JWs.

Billions of litres of petrol and oil required for the preaching work even though there are cheaper and more effective methods of preaching

The continual refurbishing of Kingdom Halls even though it is not necessary

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

Listener

I don't know if you were commenting on my post Smiddy. I thought it might get a reaction from anyone who is an atheist and that's okay.

I didn't mention God's name because that isn't the point of what I was saying. As a believer, it's not about the JW relgion and whether they are right or not because it is obvious that they aren't right. They do have some things correct but so does many religions. The sanctification is about God, he is the one that will save mankind. Knowing his name is not important otherwise Jesus would have made that clear to us, but it is about identifying him personally, we don't need a name as such, which is just a label after all.

Smiddy isn't your name (or maybe it is?) and Listener isn't my name, but on this forum we are identified by that label.

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

Listener

Let's be even clearer, it isn't about JWs being vindicated for being right, it will all be about God and his vindication. Any suggestion otherwise is a slur on God's name.