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  Serena Williams

  by New day in

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  i am a big tennis fan and today i watched serena williams win the australian open, one of the four tournaments which make up the pinnacle of achievement in the tennis world, the grand slam.

  in her victory speech the first thing she said was that she thanked her god jehovah for the victory.

  now i know that rumours have circulated for a long time as to whether she is a baptised witness or not, but she is definitely associated with witnesses .

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  What does it say for the loser? That God does not love them or answer their prayers.
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  New JW video, song and dance

  by Listener in

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  the current jws do not cease to amaze.

  here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .

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  SadElder, here's another copy

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_p53kR3TEU 
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  Has the WT ever specifically said in print that GB is NOT the FDS in contradiction of current position?

  by Pubsinger in

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  just out of interest.

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  Thanks oneeyedJoe, that is the article I was thinking of.
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  Happy at Bethel. Can't believe what I'm seeing.

  by Pubsinger in

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  apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.

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  The bottom line is that the Society/Bethel has to resort to worldly methods in order to retain the young.
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

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  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  I was talking to a JW relative last week and what they said floored me.  They said that very soon Jehovah would be gradually bringing in the new system of things. At the time I was more concerned about their family situation and focused on discussing this rather than that casual comment.

  It was the word gradually that was really strange.  The idea has been mentioned on here before that the GB may make the bold statement that the GT has started to gain more control over the r&f.

  I don't know what to make of it as no-one else has mentioned the idea. 

   
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  Has the WT ever specifically said in print that GB is NOT the FDS in contradiction of current position?

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
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  just out of interest.

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  Magnum is correct.  There is even a detailed Watchtower article that ridiculed anyone teaching that the FDS was only the GB.  Sorry but I don't have the time to find it at the moment. 
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  To see the letter better on Internet Explorer there is a tool bar on the top far right, if you click on it one of the options is a zoom button, choose 400% when your page is on the letter and you can use the bottom and right sliding bar to read the letter.  Go back to the tool bar and reset it to 100% when you are finished.
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  Regarding Kingdom Halls the Society has left it up to the collective conscience of the body of elders that use it.  Who owns these Kingdom Halls that have been dedicated to God for worship?  If it is the body of elders then it should rightly be their decision.  If it is the Society then they have the obligation to ensure that it is used according to their instructions.  I guess their instructions are to leave it up to the body of elders but it means that any decision made by the elders are sanctioned by them 100%.
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  "GB=Faithful slave" TRUE reason for change revealed

  by Viva la Vida in

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  john ekrann, a helper to the gb, revealed the true reason for the change was protecting jws from apostates and other "anointed" christians.. see: http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_e_201501_2_video (around 4:55ms).

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  You're right, the real reason was clearly explained when he states

  How does our understanding of the FDS really protect us today?

  Well our previous understanding that all of the anointed around the world were feeding the domestics really could have left us open to some attack by apostates or others who claim to be the anointed and they say they are also feeding  the domestics and this could have led to some confusion in the sheep about who really they should listen to if someone's claiming to be the anointed but now that, that door is closed.  We know clearly where the direction and the spiritual food is coming from and we don't need to worry that somehow, ah, that could be confusing as we get closer to the time of the end, it's really a beautiful protection for us to know clearly where the spiritual food and decision comes from  and that's from the fds, the governing body

   These are some interesting points

  That they make public that there is an attack from within and once again those claiming within the organization that they are anointed are in fact not, why they think followers should believe that the GB are all anointed isn't answered.  Oh wait, circular reasoning would tell me that it is because they are the fds.

  The door was opened several years ago to the idea that the door in 1935 had not really been closed on new anointed ones but the door is now closed on them claiming that they are feeding the sheep.  One door opens and another door closes.

  Probably a slip up but he says 'as we get closer to the time of the end'.  I thought they were already living in the time of the end.

  And lastly, he states 'us to know clearly where the spiritual food and decision comes from '  He just conveniently slipped that authority in, not only does the fds provide spiritual food but they have the added authority to make the decisions.  Hmm, there wasn't any mention of that in the parable and has way more implications than just providing the spiritual food.

   

   

   

   
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  Happy Australia Day

  by Bungi Bill in

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  happy australia day to all here who reside in australia:.

  - and for those who have actually got the day off, halve your luck!.

  (yet again, i have drawn the short straw and am working today - oh, the joys of remote site fifo work!

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  It's just embarrassing that the Prime Minister thinks as leader of Australia he is so important to be able to bestow a Knighthood on the Queen of England's (and the Commonwealth) husband.