Wow Nitty Gritty, so on your logic we can assure ourselves that JWs are always telling the truth if it's not going to hurt them financially on a personal level. It also means that the individual JW doesn't care less about losing money for their organization.
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Candace Conti Settles
by Nitty-Gritty inhot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.
but it's all quiet here.
are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?
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Candace Conti Settles
by Nitty-Gritty inhot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.
but it's all quiet here.
are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?
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Nitty Gritty -
I am not saying a JW is not capable of lying, but in this case, no JW or elder had anything to lose by saying the truth, so why would they lie?
What are you talking about, they had nothing to lose? They lost the case.
The very reason they don't handle abuse cases properly is because they put the interests of the organization ahead of the interests of the child.
Their were two main incentives to lie - to protect the organization and to win the case.
Now that you have at least two reasons as to why they would lie, do you think that they did?
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Candace Conti Settles
by Nitty-Gritty inhot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.
but it's all quiet here.
are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?
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Nitty Gritty, you don't think that Candace was entirely honest throughout the case, how honest do you think the elders and JWs were throughout this case? -
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They dared !
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i can't believe they had the cheek to come out with that explanation.. it's no more "new light" it's "new scam"!!
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Coalize, another one is that the Faithful & Discreet Slave is no longer all of the faithful anointed but the Governing Body only. -
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The paradox of the WTBTS
by coalize inon one hand, wtbts blame you if you choose to work instead of pioneering, and on the another hand, they ask crazily amount of money!.
isn't it paradoxal ?.
if every jw leave his job and pioneer, no more money!.
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They don't need as much money as other religions do because everyone is working for free. If they don't have interesting jobs in the first place they are more likely to work for the WTBTS. -
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The information is from the ACNC website and it is a requirement for the Head Office to report their financials whereas all the Australian congregations are registered individually here but are not required to report financials.
http://www.acnc.gov.au/RN52B75Q?ID=91956EB4-F967-4486-8D20-89B6E9A28BCC&noleft=1
Oppostate, they are only in deficit because they sent half their money overseas, most of it probably to HQ as per Coalize's comment.
Dividing 19,611,866 in donations by the number of JWs currently in Australia 66,484 comes to $295. This means that the average yearly donation per JW is $295. This does not include the amount they donate to their local congregation for operating expenses.
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Candace Conti Settles
by Nitty-Gritty inhot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.
but it's all quiet here.
are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?
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Nitty gritty says mistakes have been made. It's obvious that the wtbts doesn't think this is the case at all. If they did they would not only be apologising but also pulling out their list of reported cases and trying to make amends. -
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What instructions came with the new brochure?
by dubstepped inlike the title says, i'm wondering if anyone here knows what instructions came with the new brochure about returning to jehovah.
did each person get a certain number at the convention?
are they to be handed out at will, up to each publisher's individual discretion?
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Watchtower Charter-A Danger to GB?
by TakeOffTheCrown inthe following link is a pdf of the charter for the watchtower bible and tract society of new york as of 2003:.
https://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-of-new-york-charter-and-certificate-of-incorporation.pdf.
my question: is the governing body in danger of removal if they do not adhere to the charter?.
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This is what the WTBTS has printed about appointments.
"At the annual meeting held on October 2, 1944, in Pittsburgh, the members of the Pennsylvania corporation adopted six resolutions amending its charter. The charter had provided that voting shares be issued to contributors of funds to the Society’s work, but the third amendment eliminated that provision. A report on that annual meeting noted: “Membership in the Society will be limited to not more than 500 . . . Each one chosen must be a full-time servant of the Society or a part-time servant of a company [congregation] of Jehovah’s witnesses and must show the spirit of the Lord.”
Thereafter, directors of the Society were to be voted into office by individuals who were fully devoted to Jehovah, irrespective of the amount of money that they contributed to advance the Kingdom work........
In 1971 the same speaker explained that the members of the Watch Tower Society could not vote in the members of the anointed Governing Body. Why? “Because,” he said, “the governing body of the ‘slave’ class is not appointed by any man. It is appointed by . . . Jesus Christ, the Head of the true Christian congregation and the Lord and Master of the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ class.” Clearly, then, the members of the Governing Body cannot be voted into office by the membership of any legal corporation."
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2001051
"While directors of a legal corporation are voted into office by its members, the Governing Body is not appointed by any man but is appointed by Jesus Christ. There is no need for the directors of various corporations used by Jehovah’s Witnesses to be members of the Governing Body. At the recent annual meeting of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, members of the Governing Body who were serving as its directors and officers voluntarily stepped aside from their positions. The vacancies were filled by mature brothers of the “other sheep.” (John 10:16) Thus the Governing Body can spend more time in preparing spiritual food and in otherwise caring for the spiritual needs of the worldwide brotherhood.—1/15, pages 29, 31."
According to this information the Directors of the WTBTS are voted in by the members of the WTBTS. The Governing Body is not voted in by any men which means their formation would not be established through the Charter or it's by laws.
How are Governing Body members elected? They won't say, well they do say, and it's by Jesus.
So how is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses recognized by the JWs? By their names being printed in WTBTS publications and through JW org, which are both controlled by the directors of the WTBTS.
If the Directors of the WTBTS decided that the current GB were not acting in harmony with the Charter and chose new members would this also be accepted by the JWs? When you are in control of the printing press, the media and all the assets it is a possibility.
