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  Pioneer school in 1000 words

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this strange photo is from a pioneer school graduating class in russia.. they're hiding their faces because, supposedly they don't want to be identified as jw's and run the risk of persecution.. the picture is very telling.

  this very well illustrates how the pioneer school aims to make everyone into faceless drones whose minds are copies of wt indoctrinated automatons and not really individuals.. another thing i noticed when looking at the photo is that some aren't following the instructions to obscure their faces--some peek their eyes above the illuminators textbook and one is quite clearly exposing his profile as if he was talking to his neighbor in mid-shutter instant.. third, it's in russia, and the jw's aren't too welcome there.

  communist oligarchs were quite acquainted with indoctrination and brain-washing techniques, they didn't like competition.

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  Listener

  Thanks for the information Oppostate. No doubt it is a special book for a special people.
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  Pioneer school in 1000 words

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this strange photo is from a pioneer school graduating class in russia.. they're hiding their faces because, supposedly they don't want to be identified as jw's and run the risk of persecution.. the picture is very telling.

  this very well illustrates how the pioneer school aims to make everyone into faceless drones whose minds are copies of wt indoctrinated automatons and not really individuals.. another thing i noticed when looking at the photo is that some aren't following the instructions to obscure their faces--some peek their eyes above the illuminators textbook and one is quite clearly exposing his profile as if he was talking to his neighbor in mid-shutter instant.. third, it's in russia, and the jw's aren't too welcome there.

  communist oligarchs were quite acquainted with indoctrination and brain-washing techniques, they didn't like competition.

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  I agree it is a strange photo. I wonder what those green books that they are holding are, they look like they are hardcovered.

  What really stands out is that they are mostly females, only the back row are men, except for the one showing his profile on the side which makes me think he is not Russian and may have been a trainer flown in for the School.
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  Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

  rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

  q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

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  News from Warwick

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  warwick update .

  safety

  safety is a 'culture'!

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  Listener

  Good point scenic viewer.

  These anointed are supposed to be going to heaven as kings and priests. You would think that now would be a good time to introduce them to the other sheep,getting them to record their life story and printing it in the watchtower, or at least their names.
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  What is the "sign" of "Christ's Invisible Presence?"

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wts teaches, that from 1914 onward, a sign has been evident, which is proof of god's kingdom.

  jw profess to see that sign.

  a "sign" means evidence from god.

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  Finkelstein, if they changed the 1914 it would be a real demonstration that they are at least trying to teach truth but they can't change it for many reasons. The main reason is that they have taught that they use it as an identifier. Only they have been able to discern this knowledge because God revealed it to them and this identifies them as the one sole chanel of God..

  It is a bit similar to their teaching regarding the identification of the other sheep around 1935. There is no biblical basis for this (that this group was identified in 1935) and they don't claim any but they do claim this was revealed to them. They are not sure as to how it was revealed and a Watchtower a few years ago said it might be through the resurrected anointed ones.
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  You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.

  he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu

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  I wonder what this guy did to get kicked out without notice? Maybe he will let us know in another video. Regardless, he wasn't treated properly. The least they could do is give him some money to tide him over for the next month. You don't just kick someone out with nothing when you have made a commitment to house and feed them.
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  Seeking First

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in response to a post on reddit, i would like to make this long withheld post.on more than one occasion, i have experienced what seemed like miracles.due to whatever circumstances, in retrospect, largely caused by borg directive, our family became perpetually "in need.

  "my efforts, as the "head," to do the right borg thing, service, meeting attendance, family worship, never seemed to provide the relief promised by wts.mentally, i have always wrestled with the contradiction of job and of matt.

  6:33.satan challenged that if a jw were tested with material, etc.

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  Due to whatever circumstances, in retrospect, largely caused by Borg directive, our family became perpetually "in need."

  These are self imposed burdens that the organization has encouraged. Then they are told to put their trust in God and he will bless you, so who's putting who to the test?
  
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  Article on the JWs in The Guardian

  by scotsman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon.

  poor jane schofield, she was rather fabulous..

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  Listener

  What stands out in this article is all the names, something you rarely see in the watchtower.
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  All quiet on the western front

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently it seems very quiet in jw land.. jw broadcasting has been in full swing for months now, nobody bats an eye lid at that anymore.. so the question is, what is next?

  the next organisation change, the next doctrine change.

  it seems like this is the quiet before the storm.. the way things are going, it's almost like they try and one up their last change, things in jw land get that bit more crazy every year.. i'm hedging my bets toward a monthly public talk broadcast straight from new york.

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  Listener

  They also listed all the GB helpers in a recent watchtower, no doubt they will also be presenting these video talks also.
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  Bethelite"s wife storms out of headquarters and leaves him...she was forced into Bethel. My story begins....

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we were all in our 20's the 1990's pioneers who still hoped the 1914 generation was for real.

  jenny {names changed} loved peter who was younger then me and very handsome.

  he wanted to go to bethel since he was a kid.

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  Listener

  Could you ask her to shrink Tony's pants?