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Are you an agronomist or a farmer? If so, I need your help. Related to Miracle Wheat

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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i am doing some investigation on the miracle wheat episode, and i have a question that i don't know the answer to, and i can't find the answer online.. it seems that, from what i have learnt online, that wheat is a self-pollinating, "perfect flower".

this means that once there is a strain that has a quality that's desirable, all you have to do is plant it, and that feature will remain "forever".

essentially the new plants are all clones.given that information, this statement by penton does not make sense:.

Listener

I love Ttatt, I don't know if you have seen this site which has a lot of information about the 'miracle wheat'. It is in support of Russell.

http://ctr-rlbible.com/?p=122

What is interesting is that he promotes the idea that all Russell was interested in the wheat because it showed what was possible in the future paradise. Wt 1909 he states

Assuredly, as our text suggests, when the Lord’s time shall come he will be well able to call for the increase of the grain for the benefit of the world of mankind, whom he so loved as to redeem and for whom the blessings of restitution are shortly to be made available. — Acts 3:19-21.

If it lost it's outstanding properties then using it as an example for future possibilities was pointless.

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Pioneer Identiffication Number

by Lostandfound in

saw in atlantis post re pioneer school abroad this in brnch letter.

piioneer identification number.

so do publishers get one, are the jws now just numbers?.

Listener

I doubt it, the GB don't even know who, along with themselves, make up the body of Christ and are their own brothers and sisters in the truest spiritual sense. They just amount to a total and even that is questioned by them.

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DA letter sent... It was weird!

by Mandrake in

well i was telling you days ago that i wrote my da letter... i decided to deliver it myself to the elders.

it'a been about a year i didn't show up nor talk to the majority of old friends.

one of my best friends (who's is 2-3 years older than me, i'm 25) is now an elder... some times i don't understand him, he's an engineer from a prestigious university (the most prestigious universities here in chile, are 2, the one from where he got his degree and the one i'm attending)... he even red crisis of conscience and has doubts... but still endured inside.. my congo were based in our historic city downtown, so our territory was small... i parked my car near the hall and walked near for a while while the meeting was over.

Listener

Mandrake, your post is very moving. I can see that English is not your first language and there are mistakes academically, which is neither here nor there because you get an A+ for the message that you conveyed. I can only begin to imagine how beautiful you must write in your native language.

It is wonderful that you found the strength to hand deliver your letter which must have taken a lot of courage. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

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WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

by biblexaminer in

in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

corporate headquarters.

100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

Listener

The Governing Body members should initiate a private audit into the whole of the operations of the Watchtower Society but I don't think they can, they have no authority having resigned from the Board in 2000.

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My cat died suddenly!

by Fisherman in

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i did not realize that they were symptoms that something was wrong with my cat -but i did notice that my cat was breathing a little differently for a period of about a few days.

i also noticed prior and after to that, that on occasion, my cat would cry at the litter box, but that was a very seldom event.. anyway, about a week ago i noticed the symptom that my very loved cat was breathing heavy.

so i called a taxi and i was going to rush him to emergency room for cats.

Listener

Sorry to hear about your loss Fisherman, it's sad to lose a pet.

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Can Katie Kitten get up to 100% UK coverage with our help?

by slimboyfat in

very good idea for activism in the uk.

they've already contacted over 60 congregations about not destroying evidence the government may require, which must be about 5% of congregations in the uk.

getting near to 100% shouldn't be out of reach.

Listener

This is what the IICSA Independant Inquiry into child abuse states

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse will investigate whether public bodies and other non-state institutions have taken seriously their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse in England and Wales.

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/

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Finding time

by Jordandemm in

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is it possible to full time pioneer while working a full time job without making up the hours?

i know of a brother who recently got married too a pioneer the guy was really desperate to get married because his wife despite her many 'spiritual credentials' has very few christ-like qualities unfortunately, anyway that's besides the point.

he is a pioneer now and i'm sure he will be a ms soon the organisation likes that type of stuff the 'pioneer couple' so it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Listener

This is from the jw org online about pioneers

The term “pioneer” often refers to those who explore new territories and open up a way for others to follow. Jesus was a pioneer of sorts, having been sent to the earth to perform a life-giving ministry and to open the way to salvation. (Matthew 20:28) Today, his followers are imitating him by spending as much time as possible ‘making disciples.’ (Matthew 28:19, 20) Some have been able to take up what we call the pioneer service.
A pioneer is a full-time evangelizer. All of Jehovah’s Witnesses are publishers of the good news. However, some have organized their life to serve as regular pioneers, spending 70 hours each month in the preaching work. To do this, many limit their secular work to part-time

Notice the last section which suggests that there are some that continue to work full time.

At 70 hours a month, it equates to 16 hours a week. (66 hours a week - FT job and pioneering). I thought this would not be unusual for people in the US who have two jobs, a job with lots of overtime or a secular job requiring this.

Just as a side point I found the statements by the org interesting and a bit more honest than usual, although still obscure to a degree. They basically admit that they are not using the word 'pioneer' in its normal meaning.

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I need someone who lives in Melbourne to do me a huge favor

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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i am researching jw history, and i am doing research on ernest henninges.. he wrote a journal called the new covenant advocate and kingdom herald.

i just want a scan of the first issue, if that would be possible?.

please pm me!.

Listener

Have you tried contacting the Christian Bible Students Melbourne, they appear to be carrying on his work and advise that these articles have been scanned and can be obtained from contacting them directly

http://www.cbsm.org.au/publications.htm

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"You wouldn't want to bring reproach on Jehovah's name, would you?"

by Esse quam videri in

what would be your reply?.

my reply: jehovah is big enough to take care of himself.. yours?.

Listener

I would ask the person exactly how this reproach was occurring. If justified, I would agree, if not I would explain why.

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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

by tor1500 in

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i've been thinking this for a while.

even before the arc scandal.

it seems no matter what, the org.

Listener

Most sins are crimes.

No they're not. You then proceeded to list a couple that, under most circumstances, are not a crime - adultery and lying.

When government mandates the reporting of crimes or sins by the church to the police it means (if you can think just a little bit -but try) that government does not allow the church to exist because the church is all about sin and repentance (spiritual help) .

The Church is not all about sin and repentance, it is about people grouping together to worship God.

What on earth are you talking about when you state that the Government doesn't allow the Church to exist when it imposes mandatory reporting. Church's still operate in places where mandatory reporting currently exist.

Could you please stop all your name calling and belittling of people?