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  Breaking news - from reliable insider source - GB member Sanderson to wed

  by sir82 in

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  not only that, but apparently it is to a transgender female.. new light wt article regarding "born that way" transgenders as a "conscience matter" to be released in the august 15 wt.. more details here..

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  Listener

  Okay I clicked on the link but in my defense, I didn't think you had it in you Sir82.
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  JW TV - Britain Branch Report

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  although it is titled as "britain branch report" it's not much of a report.

  it only goes for just over 6 minutes and half of it is some 'wild talk' about romeo and juliette, i say wild talk because it has nothing to do with the british branch and if there was any point to it, it's lost on me.. anyway, about the only thing said that is of any importance was this (at the 2.20 mark) -.

  "the governing body, very kindly, have given us permission to continue construction once we have reviewed the scope of the building so we hope to be underway very soon".

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  I had to check that out TheOldHippie, it felt like half the video as the story was way more riveting than any of the other stuff.
  
  This Romeo (alias Luigi) is a constant feature working in the underground, performing his duties in the early morning. In fact he is so popular that he has many route (spelling??) calls that collect their magazines. One young lady, who he was attempting to become more familiar with was so impressed by him that she had the florist deliver a bunch of flowers to him, attached with a very romantic note.
  
  I can't wait for the next installment on that story.
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  I cannot be disliked

  by Late Bloomer in

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  2. humour

  i was reading the thread "problem with likes/dislikes" and i don't understand the issue.

  if you don't want your posts disliked, all you do go to your profile and uncheck the box next to the option that says "allow my posts to be rated.

  " unfortunately this removes the options to have your posts liked as well but it's fair when you think about it.

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  I was thinking that maybe you really are a late bloomer but since you put this under jokes and humour I changed my mind.
  
  Ignorance is bliss and even if we can see the dislikes, we can pretend not to.
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  Problem with the Like and Dislike Buttons

  by Listener in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  there is a problem with the like and dislike buttons.

  depending on what source you are using it is easy to vote more than once on the like or dislike.. i noticed this initially on my tablet touchscreen.

  if i tap quickly & continuously click on the like/dislike button, it will register as multiple votes, the same happens on my laptop when i do the same thing with my mouse but this method doesn't register as many votes.it is only a matter of time for others to pick up on this and there may be some who are already aware of this.

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  When did I click on dislike to one of your comments Brandnew?
  
  It's taken me a while to get into this like and dislike thingy but this thread has been helpful in deciding how much I want to use it and particularly this comment from Secret Slave Class -

  Incidentally I don't down vote anymore unless by accident while intending to hit "like". I simply decided I'd rather just be positive and like rather than negative and dislike.

  It's not about being bored but probably about laziness. I have gotten into the habit of reading an opening post and liking it if it's good just to let the poster know it is being read and interesting rather than commenting about it. Lately I've been using the dislike button more with posts that I don't agree with but rather than doing that, I'll try to put more effort in responding to such posts and give my reasons why I dislike it. Mind you, there are some posts that are so ridiculous that they don't need any response.
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  JW TV - Britain Branch Report

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  although it is titled as "britain branch report" it's not much of a report.

  it only goes for just over 6 minutes and half of it is some 'wild talk' about romeo and juliette, i say wild talk because it has nothing to do with the british branch and if there was any point to it, it's lost on me.. anyway, about the only thing said that is of any importance was this (at the 2.20 mark) -.

  "the governing body, very kindly, have given us permission to continue construction once we have reviewed the scope of the building so we hope to be underway very soon".

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  Although it is titled as "Britain Branch Report" it's not much of a report. It only goes for just over 6 minutes and half of it is some 'wild talk' about Romeo and Juliette, I say wild talk because it has nothing to do with the British Branch and if there was any point to it, it's lost on me.
  
  

  Anyway, about the only thing said that is of any importance was this (at the 2.20 mark) -
  
  

  "The Governing Body, very kindly, have given us permission to continue construction once we have reviewed the scope of the building so we hope to be underway very soon"
  
  

  He was talking about the Chelmsford project and explained the need for it was because they are currently spread out over a 10km area.
  
  They started a project and are now very grateful that the GB have given them permission to continue with it but only after having to revise the whole project to reduce the scope of it.
  
  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODProgramsEvents/pub-jwbrd_201602_3_VIDEO
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  Problem with the Like and Dislike Buttons

  by Listener in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  there is a problem with the like and dislike buttons.

  depending on what source you are using it is easy to vote more than once on the like or dislike.. i noticed this initially on my tablet touchscreen.

  if i tap quickly & continuously click on the like/dislike button, it will register as multiple votes, the same happens on my laptop when i do the same thing with my mouse but this method doesn't register as many votes.it is only a matter of time for others to pick up on this and there may be some who are already aware of this.

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  Thanks secret slave class, I think you're right and it corrects itself when the page is reloaded.
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  Problem with the Like and Dislike Buttons

  by Listener in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  there is a problem with the like and dislike buttons.

  depending on what source you are using it is easy to vote more than once on the like or dislike.. i noticed this initially on my tablet touchscreen.

  if i tap quickly & continuously click on the like/dislike button, it will register as multiple votes, the same happens on my laptop when i do the same thing with my mouse but this method doesn't register as many votes.it is only a matter of time for others to pick up on this and there may be some who are already aware of this.

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  Listener

  Witness the fury, I wasn't sure if I should make it more widely known by starting this thread. Simon will delete it if it's not appropriate.
  I don't think it's fair if some are clicking more than once, whilst others are not aware of it.
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  Problem with the Like and Dislike Buttons

  by Listener in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  there is a problem with the like and dislike buttons.

  depending on what source you are using it is easy to vote more than once on the like or dislike.. i noticed this initially on my tablet touchscreen.

  if i tap quickly & continuously click on the like/dislike button, it will register as multiple votes, the same happens on my laptop when i do the same thing with my mouse but this method doesn't register as many votes.it is only a matter of time for others to pick up on this and there may be some who are already aware of this.

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  Listener

  There is a problem with the like and dislike buttons. Depending on what source you are using it is easy to vote more than once on the like or dislike.

  I noticed this initially on my tablet touchscreen. If I tap quickly & continuously click on the like/dislike button, it will register as multiple votes, the same happens on my laptop when I do the same thing with my mouse but this method doesn't register as many votes.
  
  It is only a matter of time for others to pick up on this and there may be some who are already aware of this. It basically means that the likes and dislikes will eventually be meaningless.
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  Articles of Incorporation Changes

  by Seven in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i received this via email and i'm posting it here for someone who wishes to remain anonymous

  i'm not up on legal stuff, but it sure seems to me that this further shows how the wts is positioning kh properties to be exempt from financial impact due to adverse judicial decisions (eccleciastical privilege, and all that stuff).. from septmeber:

  articles of incorporation changes

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  Jwitnessofj, both the kingdom Halls and the Watchtower corporation are puppets of the Government because they chose to avoid taxes by establishing itself as a non profit religious charity. These are highly regulated by the Government in order to keep them under their control.
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  Circuit Overseer Guidelines (tg-E) October 2015

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  circuit overseer guidelines (tg-e) october 2015. http://bit.ly/1utgizt.

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  Listener

  My review of the Circuit Overseas instructions (2015 version) to Chapter 19

  The introduction provides encouragement to the oversees, explaining how they are following in the footsteps of the 1st century congregations and includes this –

  In his inspired letter to the congregation in Ephesus, the apostle Paul highlighted the need for all overseers to work under Christ’s lead-ership “with a view to the readjustment of the holy ones, for ministerial work, to build up the body of the Christ.” (Eph. 4:8, 11-13)

  Of note here is the fact that their role is focused only towards the anointed, who are the holy ones and the only ones required to build up the body of Christ. Most congregations that the overseers administer to have no anointed ones.

  Care should be taken to avoid a situation where a circuit overseer or his wife is left alone in a home with a member of the opposite sex.

  That’s fine and good advise if you don’t trust your most exemplary Bro’s and Sisters but may also avoid any gossip. However, it is noted that there is no mention of being alone with children.

  For example, if a brother is so extremely overweight that others would be distracted if he had a part on the program, good judgment would need to be used in deciding whether to give him an assignment, even though he might otherwise be qualified

  This is just sad, as it is just an example, it is likely that they would apply it to other physical disabilities. Geoffrey Jackson even felt a need to explain about being blind in his left eye.

  While a sister may be a good interpreter, it is not appropriate to use a sister as an interpreter for judicial cases.

  This would suggest that they consider it inappropriate for any sister to be in attendance at a JC even in a role providing assistance.

  In all cases of judicial reproof and reinstatement, restrictions should be imposed.

  Absolutely no discretion here, you do something wrong and there will be discipline.

  The 30-hour option is limited to four times per year.

  -for auxiliary pioneering

  If the brother is (1) being appointed for the first time as a ministerial servant or (2) being reappointed as an elder or a ministerial servant for reasons other than his move from one congregation to another, the circuit overseer should ask the following questions: “Is there anything from your past, even before baptism, or in your personal or family life that disqualifies you or that would prevent you from accepting this appointment? Is there any reason why your appointment should not be announced to the congregation? Have you ever been involved at any time in the past with child sex ual molestation?” If the brother answers no to the questions, the circuit overseer should provide the elders with a signed appointmentletter that includes the brother’s name in the list of those appointedduring the visit. (See 17:36; Appendix E.) The circuit overseer shouldinform the Service Department of the appointment using the Notification of Appointment or Deletion (S-2) form.

  The CO is told specifically not to ask a brother transferring from one congregation to another and being considered for reappointment the question of child abuse.
  

  It would be rare to appoint as an elder a brother who is in his early twenties.

  This means that it is common for elders in their mid an late twenties to be considered for appointment. Why they call them Elders is misleading. However they qualify it with this statement
  

  If they have acquired a fine standing in the congregation and have the respect and appreciation of their brothers for their diligent, faithful service, they may already be viewed as spiritually older men.

  Sorry for the next quote, as it is long, but I thought there might be some who are particularly interested in this without having to go through the whole document
  

  THOSE WITH A RECORD OF PAST MISCONDUCT
  
  12. The circuit overseer needs to check with the elders about any past reproofs or disfellowshippings of those being recommended for appointment. If a brother who was reproved during the last three years or reinstated during the last five years is being recommended, the circuit overseer should give careful consideration to the following: (1) whether an announcement was made to the congregation (in the case of a reproof) and the degree of notoriety involved, (2) when the last restriction was removed, and (3) whether the brother has regained the respect of the congregation.
  13. Circuit overseers need to be careful about reappointing brothers too soon after their being removed as elders or ministerial servants because of wrongdoing. A quick reappointment under those circumstances tends to minimize the seriousness of the wrongdoing in the eyes of the wrongdoer and may be disturbing to those who remember his bad course. (1 Tim. 5:22) Brothers removed for wrongdoing have to live down the reproach they brought on themselves and the congregation before they can be reappointed. This involves building up a convincing record of righteousness that serves to counterbalance the effect of the past wrong. Depending on the gravityof the wrongdoing, this might take five, ten, or more years. In cases of great scandal, a brother might not live the reproach down sufficiently in his lifetime so as to qualify as an elder or a ministerial servant.—Titus 1:6, 7.
  14. A brother who enters into an adulterous marriage would not qualify to serve as an elder or a ministerial servant at least until the death or remarriage of his former mate, if ever. Neither wouldhe qualify to serve as an auxiliary or regular pioneer or be assigned to help with the literature, accounts, magazines, attendants, or similar assignments. Thus, if a brother was divorced in the past, the cicumstances surrounding the divorce must always be reviewed. How long ago did it occur? Was it before or after his baptism? Was it a Scriptural divorce? Who committed the adultery? What responsibility did the brother have for the breakup of his marriage? Who initiated the divorce, and did the spouse agree to the divorce? (w00 12/15pp. 28-29) Did he remarry? If so, when? Are love and devotion evident within his new marriage? Does he have the full respect of the congregation?

  They are very specific with this.

  Some have had their spirituality tested with regard to disfellowshipped relatives. For example, some have attended wedding receptions where disfellowshipped persons were present. Doing so goes contrary to the direction at 1 Corinthians 5:11 to “stop keeping company” with such ones. If the host is going to violate this clearly stated direction and invite a disfellowshipped person to a reception, he has an obligation to inform all the wedding guests that a disfellowshipped person will be in attendance so that they can decide whether to attend. Others have attended the wedding of a baptized individual who is marrying an unbeliever or have provided financial assistance to such ones, thus giving their implied support to an unscriptural, unequal yoking. (1 Cor. 7:39; 2 Cor. 6:14) If an elder or a ministerial servant displays poor judgment in these areas to a degree that it raises serious questions in the minds of others, he may be Scripturally disqualified from serving.—1 Tim. 3:13.

  On a positive note, if you’re not an Elder then it is up to the individual to decide whether they will attend a wedding where a dfd one is in attendance.

  In harmony with the inspired counsel at Titus 2:3-5, it may be that the circuit overseer’s wife could help single sisters, depending on the circumstances. Of course, he would not want to encourage her to place herself in a situation with a sister who is experiencing complex problems that would drain his wife’s time and energies.—See 23:4.

  Of course not, that would just be extending oneself too much.

  This is a short review up to chapter 19