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  Theodore Jaracz

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was just reading the below article on theodore jaracz.

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/the-theocratic-life-and-times-of-theodore-jaracz/.

  although the article never states whyjaraz was suddenly removed from the australian branch.

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  The story regarding Pat Gaza has virtually no detail.
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  New commentary on revelation coming up?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.

  together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.

  still awaiting solid confirmation though.

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  If this is factual I would guess that they will release it at the Annual meeting. It would be a little embarrassing for them to release it at' an assembly when they won't want to give everyone a printed copy.
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  New commentary on revelation coming up?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.

  together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.

  still awaiting solid confirmation though.

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  There's a bunch of Pyramids on the cover which doesn't seem likely. Don't they usually put pictures on their paperbacks?
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  New commentary on revelation coming up?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.

  together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.

  still awaiting solid confirmation though.

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  If their current ramblings are anything to go by, a new Revelation book will make less sense than the old one.
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  From yesterday WT, don't have kids and if you do then don't see them often nor the grandkids either

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  unbelievable paragraph in yesterday's watchtower was "encouraging" the sheep to not have kids.

  most of their growth comes from the born ins and they are still on about not having kids?.

  then it went on to "encourage" those that do have kids or grandkids not to spend to much time with them and instead to spend their time serving kingdom interests!.

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  Slimboyfat- I'm confused how you're quoting Fisherman when he's not on this page

  Woops, I was quoting TheOldHippie, my mistake.
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  What Happens at Judicial Committee Meeting on Apostasy

  by passwordprotected in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was a famous case here in the uk, based around the experiences of matt barrie (aka hobo ken).

  we've uploaded the audio recording of his judicial committee meeting with the glasgow bishopbriggs congregation elders and you can listen/download the (long) unedited file here:.

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/k1pajlf7duc5zgh/matt%20judicial%20raw.mp3.

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  There's a new recorded JC & appeal on Youtube, the Channel is The Unlearned

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkbO_lYlPRQ
  
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  From yesterday WT, don't have kids and if you do then don't see them often nor the grandkids either

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  unbelievable paragraph in yesterday's watchtower was "encouraging" the sheep to not have kids.

  most of their growth comes from the born ins and they are still on about not having kids?.

  then it went on to "encourage" those that do have kids or grandkids not to spend to much time with them and instead to spend their time serving kingdom interests!.

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  Fisherman - Isn't it strange, Listener, how one often sees these contradictory statements?
  
  Absolutely. I was wondering why they are being so specific here in directing such a statement at Grandparents. It is common, these days, for grandparents to look after grandkids while their parents go out to work. This does take up a lot of their time and if it is common amongst JWs it would mean a lot less time that grandparents could devote to witnessing and other work.
  
  Personally, I think it is wonderful if grandparents are willing to look after their grandchildren, it is a much better arrangement than having to put them in childcare but it would seem that the organization thinks this is preferable.
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  From yesterday WT, don't have kids and if you do then don't see them often nor the grandkids either

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  unbelievable paragraph in yesterday's watchtower was "encouraging" the sheep to not have kids.

  most of their growth comes from the born ins and they are still on about not having kids?.

  then it went on to "encourage" those that do have kids or grandkids not to spend to much time with them and instead to spend their time serving kingdom interests!.

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  Someone forgot to remind Anthony Morris III and his minders that assist in writing/approving his speeches. The latest monthly broadcast was presented by him and the theme was on families.
  
  He made this comment

  "....can fight back against Satans efforts to destroy family...In the early 1900s the focus was on preaching the Good News, little attention was given to building strong Christian marriages and families, for a time marriage was even discouraged, well beyond the intent of the scriptures "
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  Is it Time to Declare that The Great Tribulation Has Started ?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.

  they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.

  but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.

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  Fisherman it mentions it in the same article as I previously quoted, the July 2015 Watchtower. It is purely an interpretation of Revelation when it talks about hailstones falling from heaven.

  "9 This will not be the time to preach the “good news of the Kingdom.” That time will have passed. The time for “the end” will have come! (Matt. 24:14) No doubt God’s people will proclaim a hard-hitting judgment message. This may well involve a declaration announcing that Satan’s wicked world is about to come to its complete end. The Bible likens this message to hailstones when it says: “Great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great.”—Rev. 16:21."
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  The Ray Franz Saga

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

  many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

  she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

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  Fisherman, to be more specific, by going public, how did that act in itself break any JW rules which he had allegedly agreed to in the past?