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  meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

  so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

  now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

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  Write a letter to HQ and tell the Elders that you would like to see their reply on the matter before discussing it with them. It will take months.
  
  Ask them why there is a need for more than one Elder to meet with you to help you with the matter and ask if it can't simply be resolved by them pointing you to something on the JW org official website. Act perplexed that the issue is being taken to such an extreme point, especially considering that you have only casually discussed it with your family.
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  New Kingdom Hall at Flowery Branch, Georgia USA

  by darkspilver in

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  2. friends

  external photos have previously been posted here.

  4442 j m turk road, flowery branch ga 30542. from the gainesville times:.

  jehovah's witnesses open new kingdom hall in flowery branch.

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  He claims that the Co-ordinator has no more authority than the other Elders. So what's his point? They have more authority than the MS's and R&F and less authority than the travelling overseer.
  
  Funny how Mr. Rankin is the Co-ordinator and the one approved to be interviewed for the article, who approved this and why the Co-ordinator?
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  A lie and contradiction in the Sophia Anti-Gay Cartoon

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been noticing a big problem with their basic teaching lately.in the sophia anti-gay video, sophia says"but i want everyone to get to paradise"her mother's reply is"so does jehovah"they used to say that one of their most important commissions was the gathering of the anointed ones.

  however, this was no longer necessary with their teaching that the anointed had been sealed by the 1930s and from that time there would only be replacements (taken from the other sheep).. w85 7/1a most important development on earth during these last days has been the gathering and sealing of anointed ones.

  (revelation 7:3) while seeing that this is done, however, jehovah has brought the other sheep into association with them in a restored spiritual land.

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  I've been noticing a big problem with their basic teaching lately.
  
  In the Sophia anti-gay video, Sophia says
  "But I want everyone to get to paradise"
  Her mother's reply is
  "So does Jehovah"
  
  They used to say that one of their most important commissions was the gathering of the anointed ones. However, this was no longer necessary with their teaching that the anointed had been sealed by the 1930s and from that time there would only be replacements (taken from the other sheep).
  
  

  W85 7/1
  A most important development on earth during these last days has been the gathering and sealing of anointed ones. (Revelation 7:3) While seeing that this is done, however, Jehovah has brought the other sheep into association with them in a restored spiritual land. There they have been spiritually fed and trained in Christian living.

  W 2007 5/1
  On the other hand, as time has gone by, some Christians baptized after 1935 have had witness borne to them that they have the heavenly hope. (Romans 8:16, 17) Thus, it appears that we cannot set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends.

  They give little to no attention on identifying the need to gather in anointed ones, so much so that we now see them totally ignore this commission.
  
  At no point did Sophia or her mum focus on their witnessing work in the hope of gathering more anointed ones and Sophia's mum even went to the point of saying that God wishes everyone to have the earthly hope.
  
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  When I joined the forum it wasn't long before it became obvious that she was the forum's Grandmother and was loved by all. Very sad news.
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  60th Anniversary today - I was baptized 9-01-56

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .

  my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.

  my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.

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  Thank you for sharing your story Bonnie.
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  how many kingdom hall

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when all the money from from the new york and london bethels has been used up,how many kingdom halls do people think will have to be sold off per year ?.

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  That's why they have a new strategy. They have changed their design to a commercial and much more saleable asset. They have also rethought the areas in which they should locate these buildings. With free labor and potentially a reduced cost on building materials, they should be able to continue increasing their funds.
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  WTS investment in Ford-Werke - 1943

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  *thanks to reddit poster ahilexxx for this information*.

  the watchtower society was invested in the german branch of ford motor.

  in 1943, their investment was worth $597,595 ($8,363,677.95 in today's value - over 8 million!)..

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  Fisherman - sometimes all of the time.
  
  
  

  
  Good one, I might use that with my husband who is always right, except when he's wrong.
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  Audio machine and the satanic band WT used!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been braught out in other places before that the band audiomachine' song eternal flame was used in the last video of the convention this year.

  but do you know that the band has several albums and in these albums are songs with titles that could easily be construed as satanic or pagan!

  some of these song titles are: hells battalion, legions of doom, tree of life, god of lankhmar, and the heavens shall tremble.

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  The comments from Bethel include the idea that spending donated money on this is just another expense like paying for the hire of Assembly Halls. Also, there is no biblical basis for saying it is wrong and comes down to personal opinion. If you have a problem about it you need to pray. If it happens to be wrong then it was just a mistake.
  
  Yet, would they use a public talk prepared by a Mormon, let alone pay for it? If they did so, would a JW who found a problem with that have to pray about it, to be corrected in their way of thinking?
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  I think this is an important question...

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  when i first met my wife and on that so important first date i was 21 years old and sadly broke, she was an 18 year old au pair.

  any way i treated her to mcdonald's but she had to pay for the meal.

  now over 20 years later and still together, i realize how lucky i was she didn't say on that first date " if you can't afford to pay "our" mcdonald's meal f...off" .

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  That was a really sweet thing to do, writing a Valentines Card. It can't be easy for blokes who are usually the ones that take the first obvious step in starting a serious relationship and subject themselves to the possibility of being rejected.
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  I think this is an important question...

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i first met my wife and on that so important first date i was 21 years old and sadly broke, she was an 18 year old au pair.

  any way i treated her to mcdonald's but she had to pay for the meal.

  now over 20 years later and still together, i realize how lucky i was she didn't say on that first date " if you can't afford to pay "our" mcdonald's meal f...off" .

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  Rebel, does that mean that in 1996 when you took your wife on your first date, you gave her either flowers or chocolates?
  
  If not, then you have just identified yourself as a disgusting, evil minded, little creep.
  
  If you did but then made her pay for her meal, imo it was a very silly thing to do.
  
  Maybe you just phrased the question wrong. I never knew it was customary to give your partner either flowers or chocolates on a first date but our Aussie guys are not known to be all that romantic.