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  My old congregation is gone

  by cookiemaster in

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  2. beliefs

  went to the hall today as i was the designated driver for my parents.

  an elder who was in our old congregation in the city gave the talk.

  i've had a little chat with him and apparently our old congo is gone.

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  Listener

  Let's hope the 140 members dwindles down quickly.
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  Heaven is ready and prepared for Armageddon - Talk A Morris III

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and why he doesn't go to the gym, jog or workout!

  also no survivalist mentality is required.deciphering warship has posted a youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, anthony morris the iii at last years imitate jesus convention.deciphering warship makes this comment.

  governing body member anthony morris demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food.

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  Listener

  The photo in the Watchtower 14 11/15 shows a shelf of food in the corner.

  http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014846

  They stated this in the article -

  When Gog begins the assault, Jehovah will tell his servants: “Go, my people, enter your inner rooms, and shut your doors behind you. Hide yourself for a brief moment until the wrath has passed by.” (Isa. 26:20) At that crucial time, Jehovah will give us lifesaving instructions, and the “inner rooms” might well be connected with our local congregations.

  18 If, therefore, we wish to benefit from Jehovah’s protection during the great tribulation, we must recognize that Jehovah has a people on earth, organized into congregations. We must continue to take our stand with them and remain closely associated with our local congregation. With all our hearts, may we join the psalmist in proclaiming: “Salvation belongs to Jehovah. Your blessing is upon your people.”—Ps. 3:8.

  If they think the scripture in Isaiah applies then it specifically says to hide yourselves and yet they profess to be waiting on Jehovah to advise them where to hide. How is it, all of a sudden, that Jehovah will be communicating with them at this time but doesn't do so now?

  They can't help but speculate and make things up, being far from discreet and going beyond what the Bible states.
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  Heaven is ready and prepared for Armageddon - Talk A Morris III

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and why he doesn't go to the gym, jog or workout!

  also no survivalist mentality is required.deciphering warship has posted a youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, anthony morris the iii at last years imitate jesus convention.deciphering warship makes this comment.

  governing body member anthony morris demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food.

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  Yes Smiddy, his talk also contradicts the bunker video. He says they've got it all figured out and there's no need to have a shelter then a year later they show the video with the JWs huddled up in a basement-bunker. There was also the magazine picture of the same thing.
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  WT "Study" for 4th September 2016 - “Seek the Kingdom, Not Things”

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i’m sitting there in the kingdom hall just thinking how rich it is of the gbojw to preach about materialism when they have recently been evidenced to be using bro’s & sis’ contributions to the world wide work to travel business class!

  just that thought alone was leading me to read scripture while they were all engaged in the wt “study”.. however, then it came to paragraph 17 and i blurted / choked a little.

  the paragraph said that “we should not imitate the people of ‘the nations,’ who have no real faith in a loving heavenly father who cares for those who put the interests of his kingdom first in their life.”.

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  Bethel workers are required to put in full time hours, if not more. This should be the first place where they reduce their physical work load to allow them more time to spend in the witnessing work. Then next are those in the construction work.
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  Heaven is ready and prepared for Armageddon - Talk A Morris III

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and why he doesn't go to the gym, jog or workout!

  also no survivalist mentality is required.deciphering warship has posted a youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, anthony morris the iii at last years imitate jesus convention.deciphering warship makes this comment.

  governing body member anthony morris demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food.

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  Listener

  He believes he is guaranteed of God's protection but teach that the other sheep (personally) are not and yet still tells them that being fit, having a survival plan/safe place or a supply of food and water is not necessary. It's no wonder Kevin had ideas of his own.
  
  W12 7/15
  

  In what ways can God protect the great crowd?
  14 Jehovah has promised to help, protect, and save his people as a group, and we believe that he will keep his promise.
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  (Revelation 7:9, 14) So God will protect that great crowd by not allowing anyone to destroy all his people during the last days of this system.
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  Heaven is ready and prepared for Armageddon - Talk A Morris III

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and why he doesn't go to the gym, jog or workout!

  also no survivalist mentality is required.deciphering warship has posted a youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, anthony morris the iii at last years imitate jesus convention.deciphering warship makes this comment.

  governing body member anthony morris demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food.

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  And why he doesn't go to the Gym, jog or workout! Also no survivalist mentality is required.
  
  Deciphering Warship has posted a Youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, Anthony Morris the III at last years Imitate Jesus Convention.
  
  Deciphering Warship makes this comment

  Governing body member Anthony Morris Demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food. Then turns around and says that THEY have safe places in case a (storm) comes in..

  
  He claims that they don't have bomb shelters, they are only safe places in case of a storm. However, he calls Armageddon a storm.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1KA3PoRASo&feature=em-subs_digest
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  meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

  so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

  now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

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  Write a letter to HQ and tell the Elders that you would like to see their reply on the matter before discussing it with them. It will take months.
  
  Ask them why there is a need for more than one Elder to meet with you to help you with the matter and ask if it can't simply be resolved by them pointing you to something on the JW org official website. Act perplexed that the issue is being taken to such an extreme point, especially considering that you have only casually discussed it with your family.
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  New Kingdom Hall at Flowery Branch, Georgia USA

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  external photos have previously been posted here.

  4442 j m turk road, flowery branch ga 30542. from the gainesville times:.

  jehovah's witnesses open new kingdom hall in flowery branch.

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  Listener

  He claims that the Co-ordinator has no more authority than the other Elders. So what's his point? They have more authority than the MS's and R&F and less authority than the travelling overseer.
  
  Funny how Mr. Rankin is the Co-ordinator and the one approved to be interviewed for the article, who approved this and why the Co-ordinator?
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  A lie and contradiction in the Sophia Anti-Gay Cartoon

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been noticing a big problem with their basic teaching lately.in the sophia anti-gay video, sophia says"but i want everyone to get to paradise"her mother's reply is"so does jehovah"they used to say that one of their most important commissions was the gathering of the anointed ones.

  however, this was no longer necessary with their teaching that the anointed had been sealed by the 1930s and from that time there would only be replacements (taken from the other sheep).. w85 7/1a most important development on earth during these last days has been the gathering and sealing of anointed ones.

  (revelation 7:3) while seeing that this is done, however, jehovah has brought the other sheep into association with them in a restored spiritual land.

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  Listener

  I've been noticing a big problem with their basic teaching lately.
  
  In the Sophia anti-gay video, Sophia says
  "But I want everyone to get to paradise"
  Her mother's reply is
  "So does Jehovah"
  
  They used to say that one of their most important commissions was the gathering of the anointed ones. However, this was no longer necessary with their teaching that the anointed had been sealed by the 1930s and from that time there would only be replacements (taken from the other sheep).
  
  

  W85 7/1
  A most important development on earth during these last days has been the gathering and sealing of anointed ones. (Revelation 7:3) While seeing that this is done, however, Jehovah has brought the other sheep into association with them in a restored spiritual land. There they have been spiritually fed and trained in Christian living.

  W 2007 5/1
  On the other hand, as time has gone by, some Christians baptized after 1935 have had witness borne to them that they have the heavenly hope. (Romans 8:16, 17) Thus, it appears that we cannot set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends.

  They give little to no attention on identifying the need to gather in anointed ones, so much so that we now see them totally ignore this commission.
  
  At no point did Sophia or her mum focus on their witnessing work in the hope of gathering more anointed ones and Sophia's mum even went to the point of saying that God wishes everyone to have the earthly hope.
  
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  Listener

  When I joined the forum it wasn't long before it became obvious that she was the forum's Grandmother and was loved by all. Very sad news.