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  Great new video! A MUST watch for all...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jwfacts has uploaded a new video on his youtube channel that is a must watch for all!.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pltnibcweqq.

  thanks paul.

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  Listener

  Thanks, I didn't know he had a Youtube Chanel, I've just subscribed. He's a good speaker as well as a good writer.
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  November 1, 2016 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Using and Maintaining Kingdom Halls

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  november 1, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: using and maintaining kingdom halls.

  table of contents.

  ownership .........................................................................................pars.

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  Konceptual99 It looks that way, they will have to tell her not to give the password to you in order for them to obey the org's policy which states or they will tell you not to ask for it from anyone.

  If it is determined that a publisher should no longer have access to the Internet at the Kingdom Hall, the elders should change the password. The publisher should not be allowed access until the elders are convinced that the individual has rectified his conduct.

  
  The problem is that by enforcing this law they are potentially placing females at odds with their husbands, their head. An obedient male JW not in good standing would not ask for it. However, the password is only to be given to publishers in good standing so there will be some non JW marriage partners that will find this just another ridiculous rule.
  
  They've just introduced a new form of discipline. This discipline means that they will be ostracizing not only disfellowshipped ones but also those who have been mildly disciplined.
  
  The password has to be given out individually rather than making a general announcement. They are going to look even more stupid to members of the public who attend a meeting. Imagine a Brother going around to everyone and virtually whispering a password to them or writing it on a piece of paper and handing it to them. It is a cult after all.
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  Summer Regional Convention

  by miss.ives01 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone attended the sunday program of the summer regional convention, remain loyal to jehovah?.

  i have been very concerned about the tone of discussion surrounding sundays program.

  i went to friday and sat., not sunday.

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  Putting fear into their followers is something the organisation has mastered. They need to continually find new ways of making the end appear imminent and this is their latest tactic.

  The view that they will not 'let in' those who are spiritually week/not deserving is new to me. There was a discussion in the basement bunker about a Bro. called Kevin who was weak but it sounded like he would have been permitted in had he knocked. Also, this means that Elders would become judges whereas they have always taught that this judgement would come from heaven.

  As to plans for the future, they've recently announced the building of the Bethel in England which they expect to be completed by 2020 or thereabouts.
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  It was never, ever, a warning work, was it?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most witnesses i knew were exteeemly reluctant to go out in the ministry.

  but when they did, they were simply scraping by, eager to avoid conflict and just do their hour or so speaking to lonely old ladies or widowed old men.

  placing magazines in a car group, doing route calls, plodding along in the utter boredom of their responsibility to get some time on a report by the last day of the month.. this was never a warning work.

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  If you become a pioneer you get to go to pioneer school, you may even get to go to Gillead or couples training. Yet if they were sincere, the information provided at these schools would be available to every JW, it's not like they didn't have the capabilities to put it in print.
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  Where Can One Get Answers To Questions From JWs?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there's also a fellow who calls himself the "watchman," but he seems as critical as many of the so-called "apostates.

  " is there a place where one can ask questions from knowledgeable believers or "a" believer?

  i really don't want to take the bible lessons.

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  Cold Steel - I really don't want to take the Bible Lessons. I'm just interested in an occasional answer to a question by someone who knows what they're talking about and can add some discussion.
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  
  You can call your local Kingdom Hall and ask for a knowledgeable person to visit, be upfront and tell them what you are looking for. They might be prepared to visit once or twice, it depends how you handle it. You can tell them that you don't want to study their publications, you're just interested in researching straight from the bible.
  
  You could also write to Bethel with your questions, they will likely pass on your queries to the local congregation for them to deal with.
  
  
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  Your feelings for the former travelling overseers

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during our wt life we met a good number of friends involved in the circuit and district work.

  i am sure that we share the same experience and that we remember fondly some that we caring, loving and generally interested in the brothers.

  at the same time we might remember others that were arrogant, selfish, abusive and oppressive.

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  When I as about 17 the CO partnered up with me in the field service for the first time. It lasted for about 15 minutes and he was asking what plans I had for the future, naturally he encouraged me to go pioneering. I was not impressed for two reasons.

  The first being that he bothered to talk to me, not out of personal interest but to push the orgs. agenda. Secondly, it was depressing. I had been given no encouragement or direction from my father to do anything constructive with my future by way of education or employment, so when the CO was discussing it with me I felt trapped. I can understand the frustration of young ones.
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  Just a little bit depressed .... so I went for a walk - a walk into the beginning of my JW life

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i seldom feel depressed, but i did yesterday.

  possibly, its because i'm likely going to graduate next year and i feel somewhat lost.

  the goal i've had for the last 8 years to improve my understanding of the china-asia nexus, will have been accomplished.

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  Some of the Australian Bro. were making a good living off the Watchtower until Knife came and put a stop to it. It sounds like they became quite inventive in money earning activities, including the advertising you mentioned.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/141513/w-w-2-1940s-australia-bethel-helps-out-war-effort
  
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  Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

  by Paul Mooney in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

  i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

  i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

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  Listener

  What a beautiful message it must mean so much to you. Thank you for sharing it with us. With all the sadness we hear on here it has touched our hearts as well.
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  CO visits me today

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.

  so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).

  so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.

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  You recalled so much information for an impromptu meeting. They may wonder what else you would bring up if you had been given advance notice of a meeting.
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  Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

  this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

  they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

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  Listener

  Great work, you've left an indelible impression on him that will stay with him for a long time.