Stuckinarut - There is also the worst case of manipulation in the "experience " of someone who comes back to "the truth" because she saw a painting of the resurrection hope!
That was a model, Anneliese Zelina. Here she is in an old Video advertising skinny Jeans.
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Feb 2017 broadcast hypocrisy and manipulation!
by stuckinarut2 inoh wow!
if you haven't yet watched the feb2017 broadcast, strap yourself in for a ride!!.
( perhaps watch john cedars review of it on his youtube channel as it is better than watching the official one.
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RC 2017
by wifibandit indue to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
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Naturally Jesus' endurance on Earth, to give us the greatest gift of all, is not significant enough to warrant a part in this Assembly.
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Didn't G. Jackson tell the ARC that JW's don't smack their kids?
by Splash inthe wt book "family life" (1978) had something to say on this topic:.
*** fl chap.
10 pp.
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JW Leaks, I wonder if there are some talk outlines from the past that have encouraged corporal punishment?
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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones
by AverageJoe1 innew letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).
february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.
re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.
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For those JWs that love those individuals who were disassociated, they will be very disappointed. I've heard it said by JWs that they felt the Elder visiting arrangement is a loving one .
With no one reaching out to their loved ones I think they will be distressed.
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Watching the World - MEGA THREAD of topics
by darkspilver inan esoteric hotchpotch of topics, from the mildly interesting to the rather boringi'm posting here to avoid the 'new topic' forum limitations, and besides it also helps to avoid clogging up the forum if you think something is of passing interest, and you wish to comment on it, please feel free to re-post as a new topic - thanks!
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The faithful and discreet slave is far from discreet these days. Now they are advertising themselves in a glossy brochure.
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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones
by AverageJoe1 innew letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).
february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.
re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.
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Presentation by Paul Grundy (JW Facts)
by Listener ini came across this recent down to earth presentation given by paul grundy.
it's very long but provides a good overview of the jw religion and its dark side.
it was hosted by "sydney atheists" so may not be an ideal link to send to jws.
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Sounds great Stuckinarut. I had no problems listening to the whole talk. It's missing the questions and answers which would have been good too.
It was nice to hear the reaction of normal people to the many cultish ideas and behaviours.
I thought the way he presented the organisation as unremarkable and ordinary to start with and then proceeded to explain the problems or dangers later on was good.
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Presentation by Paul Grundy (JW Facts)
by Listener ini came across this recent down to earth presentation given by paul grundy.
it's very long but provides a good overview of the jw religion and its dark side.
it was hosted by "sydney atheists" so may not be an ideal link to send to jws.
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I came across this recent down to earth presentation given by Paul Grundy. It's very long but provides a good overview of the JW religion and its dark side.
It was hosted by "Sydney Atheists" so may not be an ideal link to send to JWs. Hopefully he uploads it to his own Channel. -
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June 2017 Watchtower - Jehovah's Sovereignty is at stake if you disagree with us
by Listener infour years ago the watchtower made the following demand.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.
they are not content with obedience and in the upcoming june watchtower they have this to say -15. how does respect for theocratic headship reveal our love for jehovah’s way of ruling?15 what is our response to divinely authorized headship?
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Four years ago the Watchtower made the following demand
All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.
They are not content with obedience and in the upcoming June Watchtower they have this to say -15. How does respect for theocratic headship reveal our love for Jehovah’s way of ruling?
15 What is our response to divinely authorized headship? By our respectful cooperation, we show our support for Jehovah’s sovereignty. Even if we do not fully understand or agree with a decision, we will still want to support theocratic order. That is quite different from the way of the world, but it is the way of life under Jehovah’s rulership. (Eph. 5:22, 23; 6:1-3; Heb. 13:17) We benefit from doing so, for God has our interests at heart.The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.”
So now, to show that they support Jehovah's sovereignty the JW must support directions and decisions that they do not agree with.
Too bad for the individuals own conscience on a matter. Even if their disagreement can be supported by the Bible, it doesn't matter. The GB know they can be wrong but expect to be supported even when they are.
It is clear to most ex JWs that their Child Abuse procedures have been very flawed. The Australian Royal Commission is making that quite clear to them but the good JW is required to support their decisions which has caused great distress to individuals and families.
The question asked in the above paragraph is "How does respect for theocratic headship reveal our love for Jehovah’s way of ruling?"
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My Introduction - An ex-elder's story of waking up later in life.
by doubtfull1799 inbackground:.
my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.
i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.
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Welcome Doubtful1799, I hope things continue to go relatively smoothly. It's still early days and your other Elders may have a change of heart for one reason or another.