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  Grooming Young Ones

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i came across a youtuber 'ask a jehovah's witness' who phoned an elder and spoke to him about some of his concerns regarding children and the jw org website.

  he made some very valid points.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbe_g4vkcg0he came across a very disturbing instruction directed towards teenagers on the jw website.

  it's under the heading of 'teenagers ask: how to avoid pornography'.

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  I came across a Youtuber 'Ask a Jehovah's Witness' who phoned an Elder and spoke to him about some of his concerns regarding children and the JW org website. He made some very valid points.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbE_G4VKcG0
  
  He came across a very disturbing instruction directed towards teenagers on the JW website. It's under the heading of 'Teenagers Ask: How to Avoid Pornography'. There is a recommendation to make the following solemn promise -
  
  

  I will talk to a mature friend if I have a relapse

  
  At best, why doesn't it say to talk to your parents or a 'spiritually strong' close friend. It's telling the child to talk to someone older, as in mature. It's just wrong to make this suggestion.
  
  Even later under the same topic, the following suggestion is made
  
  

  Talk to someone. Choosing a confidant is often an important step in breaking the habit.—Proverbs 17:17.
  

  
  No suggestions are made as to who that 'confidant' should be other than the earlier statement about talking to a 'mature friend'.
  
  
  
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  New Research at AJWRB

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the latest research article published at ajwrb estimates the number of jehovah's witnesses who have died from following or being coerced to follow watchtower's blood policy.

  the numbers are staggering.

  http://ajwrb.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-blood-tens-of-thousands-dead-in-hidden-tragedy.

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  It seems that a fair number of posters have misunderstood my comment posted after the OP, with 5 dislikes (but 2 likes). It's good to see the comments written in response. My initial comment was

  Dunedain, I hear you loud and clear.
  If the organization wants to accuse ex Jws of hate speech then let them site your comments as an example and see what sort of sympathy that incites.

  I was commenting from the POV of the organisation. I did not personally call it hate speech. They accuse much of what ex JWs say as being hate speech and I could see them accusing what Dunedin said as being hate speech also but I was pointing out that if they did, then they would be wrong, it would be impossible to garner any sympathy because there was too much truth in Dunedain's words that explains the damage they cause.

  I'll try to be a bit more careful in the way I express myself in the future and apologize if I upset anyone.
  
  
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  New Research at AJWRB

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the latest research article published at ajwrb estimates the number of jehovah's witnesses who have died from following or being coerced to follow watchtower's blood policy.

  the numbers are staggering.

  http://ajwrb.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-blood-tens-of-thousands-dead-in-hidden-tragedy.

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  John Davis, suing the Watchtower may not achieve anything, the Government allows them too much freedom, a terrible evil and injustice in itself.

  This does not mean that the Watchtower is not responsible because it is along with each member on the Governing Body. What a heavy load they carry.
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  JWs biggest problem is not doctrinal issues

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's biggest problems are associated with its lack of genuine love and concern for the rank& file.

  the average person doesn't need a food critic to tell them their hamburger is shit, in the same manner the average person can discern kindness and love.

  gbs fake love and concern is evident in the way head office deals with victims of sexual abuse by jw clergy.

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  The JWs have an artificial love. It's easily seen when the GB sign off on their letters expressing their love for all yet they have no idea who most of these JWs are. Another example is the adulation shown to convention delegates, again they are JWs who are unknown to each other.
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  New Research at AJWRB

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the latest research article published at ajwrb estimates the number of jehovah's witnesses who have died from following or being coerced to follow watchtower's blood policy.

  the numbers are staggering.

  http://ajwrb.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-blood-tens-of-thousands-dead-in-hidden-tragedy.

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  Dunedain, I hear you loud and clear.
  
  If the organization wants to accuse ex Jws of hate speech then let them site your comments as an example and see what sort of sympathy that incites.
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  WT shooting themselves in the foot, or rather the mouth, finally

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "stop the presses!".

  awesome blog article at bereans.net !.

  http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/.

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  This is what the November 2017 Watchtower states
  
  

  Beginning in the late 19th century,The WatchTower drew attention to the prophetic significance of the cities of refuge. “This feature of the typical Mosaic law strongly foreshadowed the refuge which the sinner may find in Christ,” stated the September1,1895, issue.“Seeking refuge in him by faith, there is protection.”

  A century later,The Watchtower identified the antitypical city of refuge as “God’s provision for protecting us from death for violating his commandment about the sanctity of blood.” However,the March15 ,2015, issue of The Watchtower explained why our recent publications seldom mention prophetic types and antitypes: “Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so.” Because the Scriptures are silent regarding any antitypical significance of the cities of refuge, this article and the next one emphasize instead the lessons Christians can learn from this arrangement.

  
  It is highly unlikely that any JW would get the significance of this 'new light'. Very few JWs would know that Rutherford used the Old Testament "Cities of Refuge" arrangement to support his Other Sheep theory in 1934 and 1935. However, it is highly likely that the writers of this statement knew exactly the significance of what they were saying. After all, they researched to as far back as 1895.
  
  It took Meleti, a very talented writer and researcher of Beroean Pickets, a great deal of effort to work out what scriptures, if any, the organization used to base it's 'other sheep' teaching on. He searched 2,233 occurrences of the 'other sheep' within the Watchtower library dating back to 1950 and the search didn't stop there. The only basis for the claim that Meleti could find was this silly interpretation by Rutherford.
  
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  Making Every Thought Captive To Christ(Washing the Brain Of Good Reasoning)

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not a very good idea to say the least.

  when i read paul's words the more i see how delusional the guy was.

  he was a genuine religious fanatic who contradicts jesus words on the sermon on the mount.. 2 corinthians 10:5 5we demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to christ.. delusional and in need of some serious psychological help.

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  I was surprised to learn how much of this one guy's writings made it into the NT.
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  This convention talk offended me

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are my notes from the r.c yesterday, the talk called "jehovah – the greatest example of endurance".

  many of you will understand why i found it offensive.. jehovah has taken the hard option of choosing to endure:.

  reproach to his holy name.

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  Apparently their Convention theme applied to God as well -

  Don't Give Up Jehovah
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  wardrobe for tony M?

  by road to nowhere in

  1. social
  2. humour

  do you think it would be a good idea to take a collection to buy a zoot suit for tm?

  and some orange and green socks.. i also would like to find a way to make a shadow screen to put in the door to answer it when they come by.

  don't forget the odd accent..

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  His pants are so baggy in this month's broadcast that it must have taken 10 metres of material to make them. They accentuate his weight.
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  Rookie exJW Question

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering if someone could help me with a question.. i am a rookie exjw, i only left the organization 4 months ago and everything i've discovered (un/arc/malawi/mexico etc) i've only discovered in the last few months so you can image it's been a huge shock to me especially after after 50 yrs!.

  every time i think i've heard everything, something else pops up.. now i've come across a youtube video that mention tv evangelizer jimmy swaggart and the watchtower.

  i remember jimmy swaggart from the time i lived in the u.s.a and i remember the scandals with him and prostitutes etc.

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  Thanks Orphan Crow for the link to the report the Watchtower lodged in regards to the Swaggart case.