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Christmas as a JW child

by Phoebe in

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friends

i am sitting here, so utterly bored and waiting for this day to be over.

so i'm starting a new topic that probably has been done a thousand times but hey, i'm fairly new here.

humor me :).

Listener

When I was 8 and on Grade 3, I as lucky enough to be the teachers pet, I thought she was a lovely teacher and we just bonded.

She knew about my religion and not once as I ever made to feel uncomfortable, either by her or the other kids, she seemed to have a knack at making everything seem normal even when festive activities were a focus.

At the end of the year, the last day of her class, she gave each of us children in her class a passing gift. As I saw the gifts being handed out, I cringed. Each kid unwrapped their present and all the girls were being given a Santa hanky and a Santa broach. But when I opened mine, there was a beautiful butterfly broach and a Santa hanky. I was overwhelmed with her thoughtfulness.

I brought it home and knew I had to show it to my father and I thought he would take it away from me, because it was still a xmas gift. I told him how she had given all the other girls a Santa broach and just how thoughtful she was in respecting our beliefs but obviously still wanted to give me a present. Surprisingly, my father agreed, I think he saw my delight and I couldn't believe it when he said nothing about the hanky, but I was never stupid enough to let that hanky see the day of light again, it as my little treasure and I wore the butterfly broach with my deepest appreciation for this lady.

She also gave me some of her class teaching materials (reading cards/maths aids), I'll never forget her.

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What's their game?

by punkofnice in

blimey o'reilly, what are those blokes up to?.

the governing body seem to pull 'new light(tm)' out of their backsides when they can save money.

then, out of the blue comes some weird crap that will lead to the jobos getting spat at.. what is the gov bods game?

Listener

Some of it could be attributed to their desire to impress each other. They're already highly addicted to the impressions they make, they've been groomed this way from the day they were given their first privilege.

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Pacifism is Morally Indefensible

by cofty in

i have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.

in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.

of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.

Listener

" If they would also refuse to use lethal force to defend their wife of children then yes they are moral cowards. Motive is everything"

Why lethal force? There are other options so why would they be moral cowards if they chose a different option rather than lethal?

What if the husband was not in a position to defend the family but the wife had a gun and chose to injure the attacker rather thang kill him, but it wasn't enough, would she also be a moral coward?

What is acceptable or expected from a male in relation to wars is generally not the same for a female or in defence of their families. We should not be imposing our personal standards of moral cowardness on all males, either by law or judgement.

Motive is everything and we expect a different standard from males and females in general.

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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

by Bangalore in

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friends

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

Listener

Cedars was involved with cyber sex. How old the girls were, he doesn't say.

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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

by Bangalore in

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friends

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

Listener

BCG felt what he was doing was wrong and was concerned that his behaviour would make other victims more reluctant to come forward with their stories if there was a possibility that they could become victims all over again, albeit in a different way.

Alexandra James said her number one priority was to protect the victims in providing a forum in which they feel comfortable and argued with Cedars about this. She has my great respect, she shows such professionalism in both her writing and sensitiveness towards victims.

He makes up his own standards of activism. First there's aggressive activism, then there's regressive activism and none of those are substantiated, he does make it up.

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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

Listener

What concerns me more is that an individual who exposes their story to him has given up their right to privacy. He will not only have information about a very intimate incident, he will also know their real life identity.

Scientology has been known to use and hold such details against individuals as a form of blackmail and as a form of control.

It's not the first time he has requested such information. When the British Charity Commission began their investigations he asked Victims to share their story with him, stating that he would act as a go between.

If you get on his wrong side, or even if he just perceives that, he can become nasty.

Let's say you've given him your story and then later sue the Watchtower, you could have compromised your own position. JC and his helpers keep a data base of information for reporting purposes in furtherance of their own agenda.

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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

Listener

He's been very generous in offering a 25% discount on it.

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Royal Australian Commission - Recomendations for Jehovahs Witnesses

by curiousconfused in

the report is finally out.......... ————————.

recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.

recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..

Listener

I can see Angus Stuart's hand in those three recommendations. He's been reasonable and these three recommendations are achievable by the organisation without having to break any bible rules.

The organisation is showing its stubbornness by claiming to stick to the two witness rule even though they've made their own modifications to it, such as the situation where two people of the opposite sex are just seen together in the same house overnight and alone.

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"We never solicit donations" - really?

by doubtfull1799 in

inspired by this weeks clam article which again "reminds" the brothers pdf their obligation/privilege to donate "voluntarily" i have complied a list of articles or videos in the last 5 years where donations are indeed solicited or encouraged.

the society may argue that these are not actual solicitations because no plate was passed around.

but a donation box is just a more discrete and subtle version of the plate.

Listener

A couple of others -

2015 Sophia Video - Be generous
August 2015 Broadcast

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2017-12-4 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN BRITAIN AND IRELAND Re: Changes to Circuits

by wifibandit in

december 4, 2017 to all congregations in britain and ireland re: changes to circuits.

Listener

Due to the increase we have witnessed over the past few years, a number of circuits have grown. Also, many of our foreign-language congregations are now part of European-wide circuits enjoying circuit visits in their own language. To ensure that circuits in Britain and Ireland are a similar size, commencing September 1, 2018, the majority of circuits will be adjusted and renamed.

They are doing a remarkable job in the selling of Kingdom Halls and amalgamating of congregations with all this increase over the past few years.

Since the change in circuits will take place from Sept. 1, 2018, it may indicate that there is still a lot of ongoing work in Kingdom Hall sales and adjusting sizes of congregations and much of it will settle down after that date.