Bobby you say that the org. has every right to have their own rules for Bethelites. What is puzzling me is what rules are being established in this video that only apply to Bethelites and not all JWs?
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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I've listened to half of it so far. It's complete madness.
They make the claim that men are more affected by 'desire of the eyes' than women.
21.0 Flirting is discussed. A female can't tell a male that his hair or dress looks good along with enquiring as to his safety unless she is intending to marry him.
54.0 Makes some outrageous claims about tight clothing and that it looks homosexual because it makes the male look more feminine. It sexually arouses both men and women.
1.04 Is the pillow talk. A person may be guilty of masturbation by going to sleep with a pillow or blanket between their legs if it leads to a wet dream, you need to be honest with yourself when doing this if your intention is for this to happen. It's okay to have erotic dreams that lead to orgasim but you've got to examine whether you have thought of anything that has led to that, which would be wrong.
Wearing tight underwear and walking around in it, to the point of ejaculation is also masturbating yourself.
So far, not one scripture to support the claim that it is biblically wrong, that would be because there isn't one.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Bobby - I think “scandal-mongering” is the appropriate term for this video and his channel as a whole.
He learnt from the best and that may be another reason why some find him not to their liking.It's fascinating when a poster makes a comment in regards to a particular person but when taken on its own applies very much to the organization that they support.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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I would think 'gate' is being used because it suggests that it is a scandal. It may not be political power that is wrongly used but it is an overuse of religious power. It is also morally wrong to be imposing their conscience on others.
Implementing a level of standards for things such as hygiene is a wise thing to do and possibly some table decorum as well, but if an Asian wants to eat with his fingers because that's his custom then let him be, he'll change his habits if he feels out of place.
As for not asking the family Doctor at mealtime about a weird rash you have simply because it's not proper decorum is nuts. It could spread to the rest of the 'family', they wouldn't be too happy if you chose to ignore it because it wasn't seen as the proper place to ask about it. There are some rashes that require immediate attention to reduce recovery time, such as shingles or deadly spider bites. Early attention can mean a difference by preventing months of suffering. I would suggest weird rashes be investigated asap. Waking up with a weird rash and asking the Doctor at breakfast would be the right thing to do, alternatively going to the first aid centre immediately would be better but they might be at breakfast also. If your way of thinking is the same as the rule makers at Bethel, it's no wonder we see all kinds of ridiculous rules.
As for not one but two videos being made on this leaked video, there's going to be plenty more. You don't have a scandal without it spreading far and wide, maybe not as prolific as the original watergate scandal but it will spread.
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New Member Of The Governing Body 24 Jan 2018
by pale.emperor injust seen this announced on reddit:.
ken cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the governing body.
i dont recall him from the broadcasts, but he was formally a helper on the writing committee as per https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/.
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Thanks Apollo.
Summarizing some of the info. as follows -
1980 baptized at the age of 20, therefore born in 19601982 Pioneered
1984 Went to Bethel
Registered principal of the Milford Congregation which was established in 2009
MC RubberMallet's Post written 5 years ago states he professed to be anointed 3 or 4 years earlier whilst sitting at his desk in Walkill and he was in his early 50s at the time.
According to Rubber Mallet's info this would mean his anointment was around 2008 or 2009 and this is around the same period that ApolloX states he was transferred from Walkill to the Writing Dept. in Patterson.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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I've got to hand it to them, they've got themselves in a real sticky situation over this one.
It's aroused some deep thinking on my part and I've come up with new light to shed on the matter -
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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There's no reason to be embarrassed about what we are going to discuss.
I bet the Governing Body along with the Organization are very embarrassed now this has been leaked.
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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony
by jwleaks inthis was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.
case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.
i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .
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My request for the following has been approved -
Report of Case Study 29 - The response of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia Ltd to allegations of child sexual abuse
They approved three copies.
This should be really helpful when talking to JWs since the book looks professional.
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Adam and Eve received fake news, says the Pope...
by James Mixon ini like the pope he's a funny guy...but did satan give adam and eve fake news, i don't think so....
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The term is being so misused.
Does the Pope suspect Satan of pretending to be a Reporter?
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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony
by jwleaks inthis was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.
case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.
i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .
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Thanks for the information and your hard work. I've just requested some copies, they would be great to have when speaking to a JW.