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  Today's text caused a fight between myself and my "Still In" wife.

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  she insisted on reading it to me and i just couldn't keep my freaking mouth shut.. see if you can tell why.... sunday, february 18.

  they would go where the spirit inclined them to go.​—ezek.

  jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only channel for dispensing spiritual food.

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  The most offensive part of that text is the claim that they are promoting cleanness in the congregation by obeying the Bible. This is not the case when dealing with pedophiles and shunning people is unchristian. Their blood policy kills people and leaves them with blood on their hands.
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  Where some of the money is going - from AM III

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  there is a public talk given by tight pants tony on youtube titled "the real armageddon, why, when"his talk, as usual, doesn't make much sense.

  he says armageddon is not a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid hitting the earth it's god's war against all the political nations of the earth.

  he talks about a celestial phenomenon that will be phenomenal.

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  None of it makes any sense. Morris said that even if a person in such and such a religion appeared nice or even a monk, it didn't matter, they were going to be destroyed at the start of the GT by the Governments. The Governments have this thought put into their heads by God.

  Somehow the JWs will survive because they go underground. So you've got to trust that the organisation is going to save you, not God, during the first part of the GT.
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  Forum 18: RUSSIA: Justice Ministry seeks complete Jehovah's Witness ban

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  russia: justice ministry seeks complete jehovah's witness ban.

  by victoria arnold, forum 18. with no public announcement, russia's justice ministry lodged a suit at the supreme court today (15 march) to declare the jehovah's witness administrative centre "extremist", to liquidate it, and to ban its activity.

  if successful, this would ban all jehovah's witness activity across russia.. russia's justice ministry has submitted a suit to the supreme court to declare the administrative centre of jehovah's witnesses an "extremist" organisation, order it liquidated, and ban its activity.

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  Here's a JW Youtube about a two day Russian Convention that took place after the ban was imposed. They had over 2,400 in attendance and about 41 were baptized - in the local water hole. Those shown getting baptized looked mostly young or old.
  
  The Convention was held under the watchful eye of the Authorities situated in a white van and It was located on a Brother's own property and in the open air.
  
  The irony of this is that it shows it is possible to hold these assemblies without the need for costly assembly halls.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmNmukrU_Jk
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  Where some of the money is going - from AM III

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a public talk given by tight pants tony on youtube titled "the real armageddon, why, when"his talk, as usual, doesn't make much sense.

  he says armageddon is not a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid hitting the earth it's god's war against all the political nations of the earth.

  he talks about a celestial phenomenon that will be phenomenal.

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  There is a public talk given by tight pants Tony on Youtube titled "The Real Armageddon, Why, When"
  
  His talk, as usual, doesn't make much sense. He says Armageddon is not a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid hitting the earth It's God's war against all the political nations of the earth. He talks about a celestial phenomenon that will be phenomenal.
  
  However, the sneaky little mouse has gone ahead and done something that he specifically says the Government Body members don't do. He's shared something with the audience that was not in print and still is not in print to this day.
  
  Towards the end he states that the Great Tribulation will be like a cyclone, it's going to hit Christendom followed by the rest of false religion then a little bit of calm and they'll be coming after us.
  
  At 45.00 he says "Jehovah's Witnesses will be the only ones ready for it. We are organized. We will go underground just like that and they're coming our way, that's when Jehovah steps in."
  
  In order to go underground 'just like that' would require money and assets that cannot be identified to the Watchtower. It would also require a lot of planning and organization now, due to their belief that they think Armageddon is imminent. Since they have to do all this in secret, it's going to take a lot of detective work to uncover their activities.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehVdHQsT5o8&t=1105s
  
  
  I think the talk is fairly old, he doesn't mention a Watchtower any later than 2003 and mentions the Twin Towers.
  
  This is one huge, sneaky, secret society.
  
  
  
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  Do JW's know what their FDS is doing with donations?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the official figures in this post 2 years ago - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/217902/uk-congregations-jehovahs-witnesses?page=4 - the scottish congregations had a combined total of just over £1.845m in their bank accounts.

  i wonder how much of that money was siphoned off by the org when their "recommendation" to congregations to hand over their surplus cash was issued.

  isn't it tragic that all that money would barely cover the court's fine of $4000 per day which the cult has amassed so far in the padron case.

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  They've got a new video out about their fancy buildings/offices in Indonesia. They've got a number of remote translation offices there as well. There must be hundreds of remote translation offices worldwide.
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  Smiddy`s Wedding Anniversary Today

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi friends one and all i just thought i would let you know it`s our 57th wedding anniversary today .

  and we are setting off this morning for 3 nights in eden nsw i think it has more to offer than the one in genesis.. with a bit { or a lot } of luck we will make our fortune .

  have a good day everybody.

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  Congratulations and enjoy your time in Eden, it's a beautiful place.
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  Apparently the giving of "judgement messages" is not a theoretical scenario

  by GTSfromSY in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember when the (in)famous "bunker videos" were releases there was some non-witness exposure on a few sites and most of them commenting on how scary and very culty it sounded and all the idiotic wt apologist were quick to point out that it was "only theoretical", "it's possible it could happen like that" and other assorted flavors of steer manure.. well apparently not so because i just sat through the upcoming convention videos, and review footage of the last assembly, watch the last two months worth of "meetings" (*vomit*) and studied up on all the recent new wt releases and all the talk being throwing around now is all on some gog of magog this, judgement messages this, judgement messages that, "we're about to get persecuted!!!

  ; some of us are going to die; the nations are about to turn against us even in developed countries; blah blah blah.

  even the recorded baptismal talk i heard from the last assembly had a speaker that was telling the suckers....er...i mean the baptismal candidates to be willing and expect possible death, and to a good number of young preteen people i may add (outrageous!!!).

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  Funny how the 'hard hitting message' is being directed by the organization to their followers, not to the world.
  
  We could always help them along by making our own sandwich boards and wearing them in public.
  
  What could we publicize?
  
  "Millions now living will never die, stay alive VISIT JW org"
  
  "Religion is a snare and a racket, choose the alternative before it's too late JW org"
  
  "LBGT take heed, the Great Tribulation is imminent, visit JW org"
  
  "Don't become a burnt hotdog, JW org"
  
  "See us to arrange your Bunker for the imminent dooms day JW org"
  
  
  
  
  
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  Matthew 5:37.. "Yes men yes........

  by James Mixon in

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  2. friends

  the wife told me "no valentine's gifts this year, too many holidays".

  so what do i do, no gift for her but after i went for my walk guess what, a box of see's candies and a beautiful card.

  now i feel like a ass.

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  If it's gotta be flowers, pick them from the garden and make an effort to wrap them beautifully. Hand write a card or print it from the internet.
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  Dutch government to discuss JW abuse issue Thursday 15 feb between 10.00 and 13.00 [live stream]

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  thursday 15 februari 2018, between 10.00 and 13.00, a committee of the dutch house of representatives will discuss jw child abuse issues during a public meeting.. for those who speak dutch, you can follow along:.

  program: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/debat_en_vergadering/commissievergaderingen/details?id=2018a00016.

  live stream (video): https://www.tweedekamer.nl/vergaderingen/livedebat/groen-van-prinstererzaal.

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  Anders Anderson - headed by a non-JW to ensure an impartial and unbiased view.
  JW will have a hard time swallowing that!

  
  Even more so if it's a woman.
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  monthly broadcast "serving while raising a family"

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  don't know if this a belief or scandal.

  did you get the guy who had raised his family while serving?

  it didn't say how he or his wife became witnesses, but;;;;;; he is a doctor, was invited to be a doc for the wt, sold out his home (at loss ((i bety)), moved, but you can be sure he didn't get a room at bethel.

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  It starts at 30.00 February 2018 monthly broadcast.
  
  It's an interview with the Schiller family. They were married Sept. 16, 1972 and have 6 children. They were doing substitute circuit work early on when there were five children and he doesn't think the kids knew what they were doing. In 1989 they were pioneering and had the opportunity to help out at Bethel a week or two at a time. When Paterson was being established they made themselves available to work there, utilizing his services as a Doctor. The response that came back was how quickly were they able to sell their house and move up there. So they moved and sold their house at a loss. He says they learnt pretty quickly not to turn down any privileges, even though they had six kids, the oldest was 17 at the time.
  
  They got to thinking that other parents require their kids to go to college, so they required their kids to pioneer for a year. All of them kept pioneering and supported themselves with jobs like cleaning, lumber yards and roofing. None of them have a complicated life that holds them down. Their kids keep in contact and they made their own decisions, since it is God that owns their children. The point being, don't turn down opportunities
  
  I wonder if these parents also chose marriage mates for their children as it seems that they were brought up in a highly controlling family. Maybe he had been also and was made to go to college but found relief in his highly demanding career by devoting himself to the JWs.
  
  There's a lot more to this story than what was told.