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  The King of the North has now entered into the 'land of decoration' (the Spiritual Estate of Jehovah's People) - Annual Meeting

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the final part of the october, 2018 annual meeting has now been released of jw org tv.the following includes a transcript of mark sanderson's speech for those that don't want to listen to the broadcast.. we have long held that the land of decoration is the "spiritual estate of jehovah's people"... now brothers what can we say about all these events that have taken place (referring to recent events in russia) in such a short period of time?

  well, truly, if you're a student of the history of god's organization, you can say these events are unprecedented in our history.

  we've never seen a country or a territory with 175,000 witnesses of jehovah go under ban.

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  Jackson gave the next talk and said that the attack of Gog of Magog had not yet started.
  
  It was clear that it is them, the GB, who have the answers.
  
  The final talk was given by Splane who was given the agenda to 'comfort' the JWs after such intense talks.
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  The King of the North has now entered into the 'land of decoration' (the Spiritual Estate of Jehovah's People) - Annual Meeting

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the final part of the october, 2018 annual meeting has now been released of jw org tv.the following includes a transcript of mark sanderson's speech for those that don't want to listen to the broadcast.. we have long held that the land of decoration is the "spiritual estate of jehovah's people"... now brothers what can we say about all these events that have taken place (referring to recent events in russia) in such a short period of time?

  well, truly, if you're a student of the history of god's organization, you can say these events are unprecedented in our history.

  we've never seen a country or a territory with 175,000 witnesses of jehovah go under ban.

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  The final part of the October, 2018 Annual Meeting has now been released of JW org TV.
  
  The following includes a transcript of Mark Sanderson's speech for those that don't want to listen to the Broadcast.
  
  

  We have long held that the land of decoration is the "spiritual Estate of Jehovah's people"... Now Brothers what can we say about all these events that have taken place (referring to recent events in Russia) in such a short period of time? Well, truly, if you're a student of the history of God's organization, you can say these events are unprecedented in our history. We've never seen a country or a territory with 175,000 Witnesses of Jehovah go under ban. We've not seen such a large branch seized by a government, as well as all of our Kingdom Halls - and even declaring the New World Translation as 'extremist'
  Well then based on all of these events, what can we say? The Governing Body believes that these and other actions by Russia and it's allies constitute a part of the fulfillment of the King of the North entering the Land of Decoration.
  Well now, what can we expect? It would not be surprising if Russia and its allies continue to persecute God's people and that persecution spreads to other lands. Already, just a little more than one week ago, on Sept. 26, 2018, the Supreme Court of the Donetsk People's Republic that's one of the breakaway republics from Ukraine, declared the religious association of Jehovah's Witnesses to be "extremist'.
  Well, now, brothers, this raises a very important question. Does this mean that the attack of Gog of Magog has begun? Well, we are not ready to tell you. Pay attention, the annual meeting is not yet over. By the end of this meeting you will have the answer to that important question.

  Sanderson then explains how JWs can be ready, he states

  1. "We must follow direction from Jehovah's organization ... Why? Because Jehovah will provide us with the direction that we need, so that we can maintain our spirituality. And Brothers it is vital that we adhere to that direction closely in order to preserve our spirituality and the spirituality of others who may worship with us."

  2. "Don't panic, trust in Jehovah and don't ban yourself."

  3. "Protect your spiritual food. Brothers, have a place in mind to hide your Bible and other precious spiritual food, whether in printed or in electronic form. "

  4. "Love one another intensely from the heart" Apparently this means that you need to clap when you see Brothers being charged and imprisoned.
  
  Geoffrey Jackson gives the next talk and as Lett introduces him, he suggests that you don't get up and go to the toilet so as not to miss anything.
  
  Jackson says that the attack of Gog of Magog has not yet started.
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  JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.

  i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.

  to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.

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  Many of those documents show unusual names as the purchaser. For example, the property at 21 Clark Street was sold to a buyer caller '21 Clark Street Property owner, LLC'. Many of the properties sold are similar.
  
  I can't understand how a Limited Liability Company could be created with the same name as the property address. Where would the money to purchase the property come from?
  
  Is it possible that the Watchtower set up these Limited Liability Companies and 'purchased' their own property and although a monetary value was listed in the documents no actual money was paid/transferred. In this way, all the properties could be transferred to private owners (those listed as directors of the LLC) thus reducing the Assets belonging to the Watchtower.
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  JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.

  i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.

  to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.

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  Vienne - Recent sales of similar property suggest it would sell for nearly 100 dollars an acre.

  Now there's a scandal ;) I wish I could find farmland for that price in Australia, that is dirt cheap. Even Tasmania would do.
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  "Kingdom Rhapsody"...WTF???

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just cant begin to express my reactions to this....just watch it right through and see what i mean..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poxpsj5s4q4.

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  I've see it before. It's really amazing that they would use a song from Queen, especially considering that Freddy was gay.

  I wonder how many of those JWs who saw or were involved in this skit have seen the recent movie, Bohemia Rhapsody?
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  JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.

  i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.

  to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.

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  Amazing job Steven Unthank.
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  How to peddle Doomsday for Fun and Profit

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
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  james ussher (1581-1656).

  your name is ussher – james ussher – and you are the archbishop of all of ireland.. you are living in the 1600s and are obsessive-compulsive when it comes to speculative ideas.

  you are convinced that you alone have the intellect to figure exact dates of all the major events in the bible actually.

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  You are such a gifted writer and your threads are always a pleasure to read, this one especially so.

  A great many clever and imaginative Christians had their own unique ideas. Some printed and published those schemes along with charts and dates and all sorts of crackpot speculations."

  Edit (This is my comment and shouldn't be in quotes) Immediately the current 'generation' chart came to mind, they can't help themselves because they have let themselves be influenced by them but they lack any credibility.

  I am wondering if the Warchtower ever printed a chronological breakdown with precise dates as to how they determined that man has lived on earth from Adam as being 6,000 years to Sep/Oct 1975?
  
  
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  Anthony Morris's talk "Beware of the Birdcatcher. " He does tend to exaggerate just a little

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  massachusetts saturday afternoon fall 2005. .

  here is a talk that anthony morris gave at a local congregation in 2005, titled ''beware of the birdcatcher.

  '' he has everyone laughing in stitches in the first fifteen minutes.

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  Why doesn't he mention their names? There could be a number of reasons

  - it didn't happen

  - it did happen but the story is exaggerated

  - now 14 years on, are they still JWs today?
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  THIS IS IT Tony Morris Identifies King of Norht

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is the announcement we have heard “about” but now it has been released to the whole world.

  its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the jw annual meeting (oct 2018).

  to minute 52. .

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  Morris got one thing right. He told the rank and file not to be gullible.
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  Does any other denomination change Doctrines as often as JW's?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would i err in stating most religions and denominations have set doctrines?and yet, the watchtower's version/rendition of christianity is riven with contradictions which stem from changing predictions, policies, doctrines, and interpretations seemingly adrift from foundation or principle.wouldn't you think the constant upheaval, sifting, churn, and reorganization bespeaks whim, mood, uncertainty, and wilful speculation more than divine guidance?there's something endemically jittery and insecure about this religion which i would opine has more than a little to do with unstable mental affect than mere whimsy.what's your take on this?.

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  Zeb re the CARC -There was no defence uttered no holy spirit evident.

  Great point. The CARC also demonstrated that there was no HS evident with the policies that they already had in place.