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  meandering thoughts on the memorial meal study:

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, its a simple meal, wt trying to deflect away the questions about the elephants in the room.

  no record in the bible the apostles celebrating it later, until paul writing about it.

  jesus commanding it to be celebrated every year.?

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  Thanks Waton, I was looking at the February, 2019 Watchtower.
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  meandering thoughts on the memorial meal study:

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, its a simple meal, wt trying to deflect away the questions about the elephants in the room.

  no record in the bible the apostles celebrating it later, until paul writing about it.

  jesus commanding it to be celebrated every year.?

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  Waton, what Watchtower are these pictures in?
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  17 October, 2018 Russia - Kerch College Massacre

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  sadly an 18 year old russian male shot and killed 20 people and injured another 70. this occurred last year on the 17th october, 2018. kim and mike (youtubers) reported this today.. the russian had been raised by his mother who is a jehovah's witness.

  his ex girlfriend said that he had been subject to bullying because he was seen as different by other school kids and believed the shooting may have been a form of revenge.further information can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/kerch_polytechnic_college_massacre.

  his mother belonged to the local jehovah's witnesses,[27][28][29][30] limited his social activity, searched his pockets and refused to allow him to go to the cinema or use a computer, only allowing the latter when he turned 16.

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  Thanks Corney for putting a much better perspective to this rather than the Wikipedia article.
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  My mom

  by vienne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm annie, rachael's daughter.

  mom died yesterday.

  i can't find a way to delete her account here.

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  I am so sorry to hear of your loss.
  
  She was an intelligent lady and I appreciated her contributions here, she will be missed.
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  17 October, 2018 Russia - Kerch College Massacre

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  sadly an 18 year old russian male shot and killed 20 people and injured another 70. this occurred last year on the 17th october, 2018. kim and mike (youtubers) reported this today.. the russian had been raised by his mother who is a jehovah's witness.

  his ex girlfriend said that he had been subject to bullying because he was seen as different by other school kids and believed the shooting may have been a form of revenge.further information can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/kerch_polytechnic_college_massacre.

  his mother belonged to the local jehovah's witnesses,[27][28][29][30] limited his social activity, searched his pockets and refused to allow him to go to the cinema or use a computer, only allowing the latter when he turned 16.

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  Oh, sorry, I didn't realize it was about this incident as I didn't click on any of the links. I appreciate when an OP includes details or a summary of the issue they are raising.
  
  Here's the link to Mike and Kims Youtube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyWsgXqFiNw&t=17s
  
  
  There has been very little news coverage of this event but I think the Wikipedia entry has been sourced well.
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  17 October, 2018 Russia - Kerch College Massacre

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  sadly an 18 year old russian male shot and killed 20 people and injured another 70. this occurred last year on the 17th october, 2018. kim and mike (youtubers) reported this today.. the russian had been raised by his mother who is a jehovah's witness.

  his ex girlfriend said that he had been subject to bullying because he was seen as different by other school kids and believed the shooting may have been a form of revenge.further information can be found here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/kerch_polytechnic_college_massacre.

  his mother belonged to the local jehovah's witnesses,[27][28][29][30] limited his social activity, searched his pockets and refused to allow him to go to the cinema or use a computer, only allowing the latter when he turned 16.

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  Sadly an 18 year old Russian male shot and killed 20 people and injured another 70. This occurred last year on the 17th October, 2018. Kim and Mike (Youtubers) reported this today.

  The Russian had been raised by his mother who is a Jehovah's Witness. His ex girlfriend said that he had been subject to bullying because he was seen as different by other school kids and believed the shooting may have been a form of revenge.
  
  
  Further information can be found here:
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerch_Polytechnic_College_massacre

  His mother belonged to the local Jehovah's Witnesses,[27][28][29][30] limited his social activity, searched his pockets and refused to allow him to go to the cinema or use a computer, only allowing the latter when he turned 16.[31][32][30][33] In the days before the attack he stated that he did not believe in the afterlife.[34] On the eve of the attack, according to neighbors, Roslyakov burned a Bible in which he had highlighted verses.[35]
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  Watchtower can be greatfull they gave Michael Jackson the flick when they did

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was just thinking how greatful wt can be that they dfed him when they did.

  could you imagine the hammering they would be taking now from the ex-jw community, in light of the recent documentary.

  i’m by no means sticking up for them i’m just saying, that’s all..

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  I agree DesirousofChange. I was commenting from a JW perspective since the OP was suggesting that the Watchtower should be grateful that MJ was dfd by them when they did.

  They like to believe that they are the best and most upright people in the World. Of course they've been proven wrong.

  Even if MJ had still been a JW they would reason that he wasn't really because you're not a real JW if you are sinning.
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  Watchtower can be greatfull they gave Michael Jackson the flick when they did

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was just thinking how greatful wt can be that they dfed him when they did.

  could you imagine the hammering they would be taking now from the ex-jw community, in light of the recent documentary.

  i’m by no means sticking up for them i’m just saying, that’s all..

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  Maybe he wouldn't have done what he did if he was a JW.
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  Movie review website Rotten Tomatoes caught deleting 54,000 fan reviews of Captain Marvel

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  first, i haven't seen captain marvel.

  i'm not into superhero movies.

  low-budget horror made by passionate directors is more my thing.. if you saw the movie and enjoyed it - great.. and i'm sure some fan reviews are motivated by hate or they're just spamming or whatever.. but here's a thing: rotten tomatoes has been caught deleting more than 54,000 negative fan reviews of captain marvel ... all to increase the negative fan's review aggregate from 33% to 36%.. social engineering isn't just limited to the long-debunked 'gender wage gap' ... it's happening in entertainment.

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  My son saw the movie on the weekend. He said that the cinema was about half full which was unusual since it was only released late last week in Australia.

  He didn't think much of it and said it was just okay whereas he raved on about one of the previous movies in the series released last year.

  Even if there were trolls posting on rotten tomatoes, if individuals have an opinion one way or the other, then let them be heard, it's up to the reader to decide what's genuine and what's not.
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  Need help. Daughter wants to leave org but does not know how.

  by Indian Larry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long question, but very important.. i can use some help.

  my daughter wants out of the organization and i need some advise.. here is my background in a nutshell.

  i am fully faded for 10+ years.

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  Listener

  Here's YOUR biggest problem - that you can't see a way out for her. There are thousands of ex JWs have found it but it is very difficult. It can take a long time. Still, you need to be positive so you can help her.

  Its natural for you to find it hard to deal with serious problems like this but it's easy to see that you want to do what's best for your daughter.

  You are in a tricky situation yourself as you need to be careful how you show your support or there will be reprecussions for you also, both from your wife and fellow JWs. You need to consider how far you are prepared to go and what your priorities are.

  The best way to take this is one step at a time and you've already taken a good course.

  You support her in stopping the door to door work and you hav made sure she is seeing a therapist. Since she is seeing a therapist as you recognise she is depressed then now might be the time for her to stop going to meetings (midweek first) if that is what she wants to do. If she is questioned about this you can get the Elders to speak to you as you are the head of the family and explain that due to her health you feel she needs a break.

  It's hard to get a handle on the whole story through the Internet and I do wonder how much her situation with dating a JW that she has decided she no longer wants to, plays into this? It's tough breaking off a relationship as a JW because it has reprecussions in the congregation. Just one aspect is the guilt feeling that you should only be dating with a view to marriage.

  All this (the boyfriend) may be the root of the problem and once she can find her way of getting out of this without any scars she will be in a much better position to decide what steps she wants to take about the religion.

  I am trying to say that you need to be careful so as not to add to her problems, if you encourage and push her or are negative about the religion at a time when this is not an issue with her you may end up regretting it.

  It is such a difficult time for a young lady to deal with her own emotions and know what she wants.

  You sound like a lovely father.