The JWs I have spoken to here in Australia about the ARC are not phased about it and all. They don't see it as a problem. One Elder even felt that there was probably a lot of lies being made by so called victims. They feel that their handling of situations has been fine.
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Cape Town JW's and Ex JW's
by Darkshadow2020 inhi guys,.
i just signed up to the forum today.
i left the organisation over a year ago and have been sharing my experiences and shedding light on jw's on a religious forum.
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My Mom died last week.
by Still Totally ADD inlast wednesday my elder brother called me to let me know mom had died.
she was 97 years old and was in a nursing home for the last 7 years.
her mind had left her many years ago to the point she didn't recognize any of us.
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Sorry to hear of your loss but it's good that you were able to have a reflective conversation with your brother.
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Cape Town JW's and Ex JW's
by Darkshadow2020 inhi guys,.
i just signed up to the forum today.
i left the organisation over a year ago and have been sharing my experiences and shedding light on jw's on a religious forum.
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I live in Perth, Western Australia. It's a nice place, the climate is good. We get very little rain in the summer so it looks dry for half of the year. It's very warm in summer and cool in Winter but not cold enough to snow. Who knows if that will change with climate change. Each winter, some areas around the city get hail stones as big as golf balls.
We just had a storm come through a couple of days ago. It knocked down our side fence which is made of asbestos so we are trying to arrange for contractors to rectify the problem. They are all very busy at the moment. Our son had the same thing happen on his rental property.
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Bleecker Street — I saw a shadow touch a shadow’s hand (New York)
by slimboyfat inwill i ever make it to new york?
i feel if i ever did make it to new york i would never want to leave again.
what do i know about new york?
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I was lucky enough to visit in the early 80's for a weekend. We stayed at the Taft Hotel, one of the modestly priced Hotels at the time. It is now mostly residential and includes a five star Hotel call The Michelangelo. The Taft Hotel was used in the film 'The Graduate' in which the leading couple had a rendezvous. Funnily enough, the movie made famous another of Simon & Farfunkel's 'Mrs Robinson'.
I was awestruck by the City, it was really overwhelming. I'll never forget talking to a young lady on a train about New York and expressing how lucky she was to live there. She said it was awful and once you moved to New York it was impossible to leave, at least that was her experience.
I finally appreciated what a 'concrete jungle' was. As far as your eye could see there were buildings, tall buildings only restricted by the water and Central Park.
We had a young couple from Bethel show us around which my father had organized as we knew the Sister who had been in our Congregation in Australia for a number of years before she moved, with her family to America.
The Bethel couple suggested we choose between going to the Twin Towers or the Empire State Building as they were expensive to tour. It was a very hard choice as I really wanted to go up the iconic Empire State Building. We decided on the Twin Towers and because we were on a very tight budget, we kept the tickets and tour pamphlet as souvenirs. Last year they were selling for around $80 USD which makes for a good souvenir, who would have guessed.
My husband and I travelled to London about five years ago and I consider them to be two very different cities. London/England has so much history that New York doesn't have and of course, will never have. One thing that surprised me when I visited London was the appreciation for its rich history and distinct lack of commercialisation. They aren't in the habit of pulling down old buildings and plastering advertisements everywhere you turn. Although we never travelled into the business district. -
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Watchtower August 2020 Are they introducing new light?
by Listener inthe latest watchtower is now out and they make this statement -.
7 during the thousand year rule of christ, all of jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him.
so all of them will have true fellow feeling as they help the resurrected ones to combat sinful tendencies and to live by jehovah’s standards.
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Thanks SBF. Your explanation sounds correct. I have also heard that they introduce some new concepts slowly so that when they introduce a new idea more completely, the sheep are more open to the idea, some saying that they always believed this (new light) to be the case.
Stan Livedeath, I suppose you could say it's a hobby of mine but in recent years I like to keep up with how they operate.
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Watchtower August 2020 Are they introducing new light?
by Listener inthe latest watchtower is now out and they make this statement -.
7 during the thousand year rule of christ, all of jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him.
so all of them will have true fellow feeling as they help the resurrected ones to combat sinful tendencies and to live by jehovah’s standards.
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The latest Watchtower is now out and they make this statement -
7 During the Thousand Year Rule of Christ, all of Jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him. So all of them will have true fellow feeling as they help the resurrected ones to combat sinful tendencies and to live by Jehovah’s standards. (1 Pet. 3:8)
They have taught for decades that those on earth will not become God's children until the end of the thousand years.
This is from the ws 2012 7/15
God’s friends: The other sheep are God’s friends. They will become part of God’sunited family at the end of the thousand years when they become his children...
God’s children: All who are part of God’s family. The anointed have already been gathered into this family, so they are now children of God. At the end of the thousand years, all people on earth will also be God’s childrenAlso, the teaching is found in the W 06 2/15
At the end of the Millennial Reign, all these “things on the earth” will be subjected to a final test. Those proving faithful will be adopted as earthly “children of God.”—Ephesians 1:10; Romans 8:21; Revelation 20:7, 8.
Surely this can't be an error by the writers since they go to great lengths to keep their teachings consistent and thoroughly check their articles.
The idea was that the other sheep would only be adopted as God's children at the end of the thousand years, after they had reached perfection and proved themselves faithful after that final test but the new article states
all of Jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him.
This means that they are saying that they are God's children before they make changes and are therefore earthly individuals who are still imperfect and living during the thousand year reign.Now the 64 thousand dollar question is, at what point in time is the Watchtower now teaching that the other sheep are considered to be God's children? And also, what other new teachings will they alter to go along with this? Such as, the other sheep now viewing Jehovah as their true heavenly father (in every sense), having Jesus as their mediator, being part of the body of Christ, being part of Jesus' congregation, being part of the New Covenant and having the law written on their hearts?
Or am I simply over-reaching on this and if the Watchtower were to defend what apparently looks like a new teaching would simply say that they were referring to 'potential' children of God because, after all, they were referring to earthly individuals who will one day be children of God being at the end of the millennial rule?
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Cape Town JW's and Ex JW's
by Darkshadow2020 inhi guys,.
i just signed up to the forum today.
i left the organisation over a year ago and have been sharing my experiences and shedding light on jw's on a religious forum.
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Welcome Darkshadow, nice to hear from you.
I visited Capetown about 5 years ago and my husband and I thought it was one of the most beautiful places we have seen. This was just before water became a severe problem. I hope everyone is doing well there.
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Jehovah’s Witnesses President Robert Ciranko dies of coronavirus
by Balaamsass2 infyi.
this showed up on my google feed.
i couldn't find an earlier story in the search box.
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Winston has a Youtube chanel called Watchtower Examination. He said he called the Watchtower and they told him this was not true.
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F. W. Franz epic talk May 11, 1975 (clip)
by lastmanstanding inhttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.
f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.
i am hoping to find another copy in the box..
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The sound is very clear on your tape, about one of the best recordings, sound wise, I have heard from Fred Franz.
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Memories of Maryland Conventions!
by Atlantis inposting for brother x. petra!.
if you were a child during the years of 1960 to 1970, the question isn't; do you remember these conventions?
the question is; how could you forget?
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John Redwood (Mark O'Donnell) I know you are really, really busy with very important work but have you written a book about your JW experiences or do you plan on doing so?
I imagine one book wouldn't begin to cover it all. Not to mention, it would be ongoing.