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  You Tube Questions about Watchtower Property

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  kim and mikey made a youtube yesterday claiming that a business called watchtower property co. was connected to the watchtower.

  they used a recording done by youtuber smurf girl of a call she made to a julie at the company.

  i believe the call was doctored as it has her saying that (no) "we're connected to the jehovahs witnesses directly.

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  Newly Enlightened/Kim & Mike

  But yet none of you mention the most important information about Watchtower Bible Tract Society hiring 5 lobbyists

  I don't understand why you would expect me to mention information you presented about an entirely different issue as it has nothing to do with your claims about Watchtower Properties Co.
  
  Are you okay with me informing Julie from that business of your claim and the misrepresented call that Smurfgirl made and you now have on your website? It's not fair that you do that to a real business and people and you've just taken Smurfgirls word for it.

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  This is a link to the video that I've mentioned in the OP

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLsHlF9O0s&t=1119s

  
  
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  You Tube Questions about Watchtower Property

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  kim and mikey made a youtube yesterday claiming that a business called watchtower property co. was connected to the watchtower.

  they used a recording done by youtuber smurf girl of a call she made to a julie at the company.

  i believe the call was doctored as it has her saying that (no) "we're connected to the jehovahs witnesses directly.

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  Thanks Jeff T. I did have a look at that and found no links.

  In her Youtube, Smurfgirl came up with a name that was a little similar to a name of a JW Director of the IBSA from years ago. As well as the phone call, that was the only evidence presented.
  
  There's no link that I could find and the evidence shows the WBTS would have nothing to do with them.
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  You Tube Questions about Watchtower Property

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  kim and mikey made a youtube yesterday claiming that a business called watchtower property co. was connected to the watchtower.

  they used a recording done by youtuber smurf girl of a call she made to a julie at the company.

  i believe the call was doctored as it has her saying that (no) "we're connected to the jehovahs witnesses directly.

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  Kim and Mikey made a YouTube yesterday claiming that a business called Watchtower Property Co. was connected to the Watchtower. They used a recording done by Youtuber Smurf Girl of a call she made to a Julie at the Company. I believe the call was doctored as it has her saying that (No) "We're connected to the Jehovahs Witnesses directly." The No was removed by someone as it was in the original recording on SmurfGirls channel. Her video was removed because of Julie notifying YouTube of a privacy issue.

  This has now become a rumour shared amongst a number of exJWs and unfortunately just gives 'apostates' a bad name with such nonsense. But, they don't realise the potential damage they could be doing to individuals and businesses by such behaviour.

  Watchtower Property Co is a real business with Julie acting as the Director for Leasing. I don't think it is kind to her or her business. I informed her of SmurfGirls YouTube shortly after she put it up so that she knew about it and could take action if she wished. I will be doing the same about Kim and Mikeys YouTube if they don't take it down but I want to give them the opportunity to do it themselves and not YouTube.

  I don't know how else to stop this stupid rumour. It was started by Smurfgirl who claims she was an automatic Writer to some GB members as a girl. There are too many gullible ex JWs that believe what she has to say.

  The Watchtower would never appoint a female as a Director of a Co. or put em in charge. A look at this businesses Facebook shows them celebrating every 'Worldly' holiday.
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  KH's Still All Closed- How Bad is WT doing Financially?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most churches are back to in-person worship.

  not jehovah's witnesses.

  is watchtower still managing to fleece the flocks as the sheeple no longer get literature, no longer go to the kh, no longer walk past the donation box?

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  Biahi19 hours ago

  Smurf girl did a you tube on this topic yesterday. She said that 7 of the 9 Kingdom Halls in her area say “Permanently closed” on the website.

  I find it astounding as to the number of ex JWs that believe this lady. She was on six screens podcasts many times with all sorts of strange stories. It includes the claim that she was an automatic writer for the Governing Body when she was little. She also claims that it was herself that was responsible for all the Smurf rumours when she made it appear there was a Smurf running down the eisle at a Kingdom Hall.

  If you have another look at her YouTube, someone posted a likely explanation as to why there appears to be 7 KHs in her area that appear to be closed. It has something to do with not supplying information to Google resulting in them listing it as closed.
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  Victorian couple who tested positive for Covid and travelled to QLD during lockdown are JWs?

  by Ruby 1976 in

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  2. friends

  has anyone heard this?

  ive been told multiple ex jws have confirmed it but no one seems to kow their names so im still skeptical..

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  If they travelled from Victoria to Queensland even once a year to see family then they are not going to be seen as regular attendees as most.
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  Russell era letters

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm trying to help b with his research for separate identity vol 3. scans of letters, documents and post cards by russell or any early bible student are helpful.

  will you please share them?.

  annie.

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  Annie, you may already know the guy that has a YouTube channel called Watchtower History but I mention it in case you don't. He has done copious amounts of research and has letters, newspaper clippings and other items, including original letters from way back. I understand he is associated with a group of other researchers regarding the Watchtower.
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  Did you think this was it for the Watchtower-(Covid)- Well-They are coming back with even greater ZEAL!

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so you all probably heard that the awake magazine is back, .

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=g&yearfilter=.

  and one of my jw relatives said they were told by some elders that meetings and field service will resume before the end of the year.. they said this covid virus was a test, like when the romans breached jerusalem and retreated, only to come back later and sack jerusalem.

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  Now is not the time to focus on Education, Entertainment, and Work, retirement, etc, but now is the time to exert onself and enter the full time service, brothers to reach out for Ministerial servant and Elder, and those studying to get baptized.

  This is not a new message and therefore it can't be given a parallel of retreating out of Jerusalem. This has always been their message.
  
  
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  GOTCHA!

  by JTrottigy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i noticed one of the members here came to my jwtalk website, where i am an important administrator, and tried to join my site.. i check in here every so often and i was able to deduce that person was an apostate fraud, likely bent on polluting my site.

  i denied their request to join.. ha!

  gotcha!

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  Jtrottigy , would you rather be -

  an apostate fraud or

  a Christian fraud?

  GOTCHA 😎
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  2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .

  2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.

  if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .

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  Petra - If our documents are considered useless, and a scandal/sensation, as the remarks show, then the board would be better off without us.

  Oh No, the information you send us is amazing and not useless at all. You do a tremendous job.
  
  I wasn't meaning that the information you send us is useless. I was examining the Articles of Association and they look like they could not stand up in court, therefore useless from that perspective.
  
  Once again, please forgive me for the misunderstanding. I have the utmost respect for all that you do.
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  2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .

  2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.

  if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .

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  We did our best to get them for you, but if they are useless, then we are very sorry.

  You did and thank you very much Atlantis and Petra.

  I do wonder what others make of them. I saw a comment from John Redwood on JW reddit. He said he thinks they are pretty much what they have always been like and he couldn't see anything different.