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  Well what do you know gb finally understanding social isolation or shunning.

  by Yomama in

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  update some upstanding jw are experiencing social isolation isnt that what df and da people feel?reap sow karma..

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  Yes, in the latest GB update (2022 No 1) Kenneth Cooky explains the problems with social isolation and that even the bible talks against it.

  He says

  - One cause for anxiety is social isolation

  - Proverbs 18:1 "Whoever isolates himself pursues his own selfish desires, he rejects all practical wisdom"

  - There are ways of fighting back at the anxiety that isolation can cause in our hearts such as turning your camera on and waving when connecting to zoom meetings, turning it on earlier, leaving later and going into break out rooms.

  They are blatantly aware of the importance of socializing and serious dangers of isolation (or shunning), and well know that their df policy is based on isolation. This shows what an unloving organisation this is.
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  Correct usage referring to the organization?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  which sentences are technically correct.

  1 the watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 2. the watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 3. the watchtower society keeps changing its doctrines.. 4. watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 5. watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 6. the society keeps changing its doctrines.. 7. the watchtower organization keeps changing its doctrines.. 8. the watch tower organization keeps changing its doctrines..

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  Previously, the President of the WB&TS kept changing doctrine taught to Jehovah's Witnesses. Currently, the Governing Body does this.
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  Meetings for the New Year

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  this question is for pimo, did your zoom meetings have a new schedule starting on january 1?

  just wondering!

  that’s all!

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  Are you serious Road to Nowhere? You don't happen to have Irish Elders by any chance?

  Changing it was just lording it over the congregation if it was not the preferred time as it isn't necessary until there is a return to the hall.
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  Anthony Morris Mormon background, does anyone here have any more information?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  do you have any information on tony's family history and mormon background?.

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  Youtuber, The Blue Envelope has done the most in depth research that I've seen. He has at least four video's on Anthony Morris Jnr (apparently that's his legal name).
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  McFree v. Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  mcfree v. watchtower.

  a us federal judge has ruled against watch tower pennsylvania, denying their dmca subpoena to identify the creator of the jehovah's witness parody videos known as "dubtown.. .

  see last page (page 20).

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  Listener

  That's great news.

  I would imagine that the Watchtower has its own internal means of discovering the identity of Kevin McFee if they so wished. He uses his voice and I think his child's voice as well. A link to that video, requesting identification, in a newsletter to all elders, would likely give them that information. One benefit of being a united organisation. However, they wouldn't dare link to such a potentially damaging video.

  Its funny that the Watchtower also thought they were onto something. They believed that Kevin McFee had obtained their footage illegally and I assume, that by persuing him, they would find the source of the leaks from Bethel. They would have been disappointed to discover that Kevin simply obtained the leaked footage from the John Cedars crew and that he had done nothing illegal. What a waste of time and money it has been for them.

  Unfortunately, in their wasted efforts they have targeted a man who the court has proven, they had no cause to. It was their responsibility in the first instance to determine copyright infringement and it clearly was not. They are responsible for the pain and suffering caused to Kevin and should compensate him for this if they consider themselves Christian leaders.
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  Door to door again?

  by Zeds Dead in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you think the jdubs will start up the door whacking again one day?.

  there has to be many inside the org that are dreading having to do that again and as for the general public seeing this, it’s hard to imagine.

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  I doubt it. At least, not for a long time. Even if they wanted to push the idea that JWs must return to door to door work the push back from the public could be tremendous.

  I would not like it if they were knocking on the doors of elderly people.

  We are going to have to show proof of vaccination here in Australia in order to enter into many establishments, including hospitals, old age homes, public gatherings and other places.

  Since their will be these restrictions in place, it doesn't seem right that you could have people entering people's private properties without their prior approval. If JWs started doing this, the issue would have to be legally addressed. This would bring unwarranted attention to them and I don't think they would want this negative publicity even though they fought for it in the courts years ago. Now they would be fighting public opinion. Are they willing to withstand this persecution, fighting the fine fight for the faith?
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  Tony Morris hijacking GB

  by asp59 in

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  2. bible

  has the gb been hijacked by tony morris?

  hes the host many times on jw videos.

  saying gb members wanting him too host.

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  But Morris family i read are wealthy.

  Youtuber, The Blue Envelope, has made several video's about Tony Morris with a lot of interesting information. It appears his name is really Anthony Morris Junior and used on legal documents but likes to be known as 'the third'.

  It was Morris himself that has given the impression that he was rich but it appears that he is not. The Blue Envelope provides a lot of documents to prove this.
  
  
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  From MacHislopp--Grand Total Questions!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was asked post this for machislopp.

  cookie thief!.

  machislopp writes:.

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  For each given year they do not publish the figures for

  - the number that have become inactive (inactive due to various reasons such as dfd)

  - the number that have died

  - the number that have become active again

  - the number that have become active but not baptised

  Therefore, given the figures that are given, there are a great number that have either died or become inactive.
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  Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?

  by pistolpete in

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  2. beliefs

  i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.

  how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.

  i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.

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  "why do dyed in the wool watchtower watchers on their deathbed regret missing the great tribulation, A ?"

  The clue in that is 'dyed in the wool' JWs. They have been indoctrinated so deeply that they are looking forward to the test to prove themselves faithful to Jehovah under the most extreme test that they will ever face. They want to be martyrs.

  Every JW, since the beginning has been led to believe that the big A will come within their lifetime, they have been trained for it and expect it. To them, since it hasn't happened today, it will just be a little longer, it's not something that will happen after they die.
  
  
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  Lucioni

  by Yomama in

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  2. friends

  many are ignoring the advice on shunning they cant wait for paramedics..

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  Direction on how to treat df ones unscriptual

  So much so that he resorts to a medical intervention to relate it to.

  Suggesting that Elders are the qualified spiritual healers of an individual and better than a family member is cruel.