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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Listener

Slander is not a crime, it is a civil matter whereas harassment is criminal and he mentions harassing in his statement. He also says that he is seeking legal protection which suggests that he is not talking about suing but some form of protection maybe in the form of a cease and desist.

What's interesting is that he claims most of the information said about him is untrue but he does not mention Kim once or even what sex the 'person' is. He only refers to the person as having been a close colleague and volunteer.

It's sad that he has no understanding as to why Kim felt the need to disclose the information about him. How can he have any understanding of abuse victims if this is the case?

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AM III off topic remarks online @ jw.org

by Gorb in

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am iiii off topic remarks at the anual meeting, are online at broadcasting.. he says in the early 70s he did not believe the end was near, and told his sons not to believe jw's who stating the end is near because the system could go on to 2020.. g..

Listener

The Blue Envelope from Youtube had done some research into his history and found that in 1975 Anthony and his wife stood down from full time witnessing. It was that year that their first son Jessy was born. His second son was born in 1977. This means that this talk that he gave to his sons couldn't have taken place until the 1980s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CxX-L8sQu8

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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Is it just me or did he seem proud of the fact that he was paying prostitutes rather than having an affair?

There's a lot of censoring going on at ex JW Reddit, moderators have even asked that they use the term sex worker instead of hooker or prostitute. What term did Lloyd use?

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Well what do you know gb finally understanding social isolation or shunning.

by Yomama in

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update some upstanding jw are experiencing social isolation isnt that what df and da people feel?reap sow karma..

Listener

Smiddy3, it's Kenneth Cook, I just added the y as I thought it sounded better. He's the most recent Governing Body member.

This is the link to the video

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/FeaturedLibraryVideos/docid-702022003_1_VIDEO

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Well what do you know gb finally understanding social isolation or shunning.

by Yomama in

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update some upstanding jw are experiencing social isolation isnt that what df and da people feel?reap sow karma..

Listener

Yes, in the latest GB update (2022 No 1) Kenneth Cooky explains the problems with social isolation and that even the bible talks against it.

He says

- One cause for anxiety is social isolation

- Proverbs 18:1 "Whoever isolates himself pursues his own selfish desires, he rejects all practical wisdom"

- There are ways of fighting back at the anxiety that isolation can cause in our hearts such as turning your camera on and waving when connecting to zoom meetings, turning it on earlier, leaving later and going into break out rooms.

They are blatantly aware of the importance of socializing and serious dangers of isolation (or shunning), and well know that their df policy is based on isolation. This shows what an unloving organisation this is.

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Correct usage referring to the organization?

by Vanderhoven7 in

which sentences are technically correct.

1 the watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 2. the watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 3. the watchtower society keeps changing its doctrines.. 4. watchtower keeps changing its doctrines.. 5. watch tower keeps changing its doctrines.. 6. the society keeps changing its doctrines.. 7. the watchtower organization keeps changing its doctrines.. 8. the watch tower organization keeps changing its doctrines..

Listener

Previously, the President of the WB&TS kept changing doctrine taught to Jehovah's Witnesses. Currently, the Governing Body does this.

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Meetings for the New Year

by Iamallcool in

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this question is for pimo, did your zoom meetings have a new schedule starting on january 1?

just wondering!

that’s all!

Listener

Are you serious Road to Nowhere? You don't happen to have Irish Elders by any chance?

Changing it was just lording it over the congregation if it was not the preferred time as it isn't necessary until there is a return to the hall.

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Anthony Morris Mormon background, does anyone here have any more information?

by raymond frantz in

do you have any information on tony's family history and mormon background?.

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Youtuber, The Blue Envelope has done the most in depth research that I've seen. He has at least four video's on Anthony Morris Jnr (apparently that's his legal name).

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McFree v. Watchtower!

by Atlantis in

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mcfree v. watchtower.

a us federal judge has ruled against watch tower pennsylvania, denying their dmca subpoena to identify the creator of the jehovah's witness parody videos known as "dubtown.. .

see last page (page 20).

Listener

That's great news.

I would imagine that the Watchtower has its own internal means of discovering the identity of Kevin McFee if they so wished. He uses his voice and I think his child's voice as well. A link to that video, requesting identification, in a newsletter to all elders, would likely give them that information. One benefit of being a united organisation. However, they wouldn't dare link to such a potentially damaging video.

Its funny that the Watchtower also thought they were onto something. They believed that Kevin McFee had obtained their footage illegally and I assume, that by persuing him, they would find the source of the leaks from Bethel. They would have been disappointed to discover that Kevin simply obtained the leaked footage from the John Cedars crew and that he had done nothing illegal. What a waste of time and money it has been for them.

Unfortunately, in their wasted efforts they have targeted a man who the court has proven, they had no cause to. It was their responsibility in the first instance to determine copyright infringement and it clearly was not. They are responsible for the pain and suffering caused to Kevin and should compensate him for this if they consider themselves Christian leaders.

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Door to door again?

by Zeds Dead in

do you think the jdubs will start up the door whacking again one day?.

there has to be many inside the org that are dreading having to do that again and as for the general public seeing this, it’s hard to imagine.

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Listener

I doubt it. At least, not for a long time. Even if they wanted to push the idea that JWs must return to door to door work the push back from the public could be tremendous.

I would not like it if they were knocking on the doors of elderly people.

We are going to have to show proof of vaccination here in Australia in order to enter into many establishments, including hospitals, old age homes, public gatherings and other places.

Since their will be these restrictions in place, it doesn't seem right that you could have people entering people's private properties without their prior approval. If JWs started doing this, the issue would have to be legally addressed. This would bring unwarranted attention to them and I don't think they would want this negative publicity even though they fought for it in the courts years ago. Now they would be fighting public opinion. Are they willing to withstand this persecution, fighting the fine fight for the faith?