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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I've posted and upvoted a number of posts.

  Getting death threats is not on, I wonder where that is coming from. It's criminal and serious.
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  Mark Noumair latest video on persecution on jw.org

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  https://youtu.be/tbbxaasj6ki.

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  Is it new light that only the anointed are written in the scroll of life?

  13.49 Mark states

  Not one of those in Satan's organization is going to be written in the scroll of life. The only ones written in the scroll of life are those who rule with Jesus Christ
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Kim Silvio, I don't know of anyone who has been given such a hard time from Lloyd, except for his wife of course. Going from a strong supporter of his to finding out what he's really made of is tough enough in such a short time but the treatment he has given you is inexcusable.

  You are the messenger but he wants to turn you into the wrongdoer.

  I feel for what you are going through and thank you for being the whistleblower. It's making a huge dent into his agenda.

  Can you imagine the amount of damage that he's done that we won't even get to hear about.

  Thanks for making a difference.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I'm catching up on the Andrew Gold's review of the interviews with Lloyd Evans and Kim Silvio.

  His level of paranoia has hit an all time high. IMHO it sounds dangerously high.

  Andrew Gold points out that Lloyd Evans contacted him, asking him to do an interview. Lloyd Evans later claims in a discussion with him that it was the other way around.

  Lloyd asked that he not interview Kim Silvio as he didn't want her to have the last say.

  Andrew offers to interview both him and Kim at the same time. He said no, so then Andrew offers to allow Lloyd to feed him questions on the side during the interview with Kim.

  Lloyd then responds 'very angrily' and accuses Andrew of duping him, the victim, into this (the initial interview) Lloyd claims that Andrew did this so he could use it as fodder to enable Kim Silvio, to bully him even more. This accusation was made even though Andrew knew nothing of Kim Silvio until all this came up and has only had dealings with Lloyd previously.

  Lloyd also accused him of cheap tabloid sensationalism. He threatened to remove his patronage from him which was all of 1.50pounds a month, he has since done so. It's almost as if he is paying people for future favours.

  Lloyd told him that Kim is a pathological liar and if she lies on his interview, which he said she would, he will add him to his lawsuit.

  Imagine that, for years Lloyd has engaged and allowed a pathological liar on his team, including his website and on his Youtubes.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  They say any publicity is good publicity, it would seem that is what he is going for.

  Thanks Kim. The Youtube says it will premiere in 31 hours - on the 15th April (Friday)
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Kim, Lloyd said that he had been paying for prostitutes every few months for the past three of four years, however a couple of times you mentioned that you remembered being told differently.

  Are you able to say what you believe he had told you regarding this?
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''

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  the watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.

  15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.

  during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.

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  Since Satan is the Ruler of this World, then instructions that are illogical, strange and impractical couldn't originate with anyone else.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''

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  the watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.

  15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.

  during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.

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  From the study Watchtower

  During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical. Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives.

  He will LIKELY provide direction through the FDS during the GT? They don't even know if Jehovah will provide the GB with direction.

  They are telling the R&F to follow these instructions even if they are strange, impractical, or illogical and now to do it even if they don't know if it is from men or from Jehovah because they are admitting that they only think is is likely it is from him - not definitely.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Thanks Kim for answering all those questions and offering to be questioned in the first instance, it's much appreciated.

  You've done such a great service for ex jw's and potential ex jw's.

  Hopefully you won't find any bullying on this forum but if you do Simon is sure to be quickly onto it.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Dijana was neutral about the sharing of information to the public.

  This is another interesting piece of information. According to Lloyd, she asked him not to talk about her publicly.

  There are a number of signals/suggestions that she is in an abusive relationship. It's possible that she wants all this to come out publicly but does not want to be seen as supportive of this due to potential repercussions from her abuser.

  Unfortunately, one big problem in being in an abusive relationship is the abuser tries to bring their victim down to their level. The longer a relationship continues, the more this happens and the spiral downwards makes it even more difficult for the victim to get out.

  There is a lot that you aren't saying about their relationship and some things that really concerned you. Since you are concerned about those 'following' Lloyd in the first instance, why haven't you come out with it all?