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Washington State-Spokesman-Review article: The Silent Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/oct/02/the-silent-witnesses-jehovahs-witnesses-covered-up/.

the silent witnesses: jehovah’s witnesses covered up child sexual abuse in washington state for decades, lawsuit alleges.

sun., oct. 2, 2022. by wilson criscioneinvestigatewest.
Listener

Thanks for the link to the shocking news Barbara and also for all the work that you've done in this area.
How the GB can stand in front of an audience and claim incidents like these are bold face lies is a disgrace.
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Another congregation closed
by hoser in
1. jw
2. friends
15 years ago there were 5 congregations now there is only one and it is still struggling.

congregations closing their doors doesn’t mean business is good.

it looks like this last one to fold had no young witnesses, they either left the religion or moved.
Listener

How do they reconcile the idea of making their followers travel further for meetings so that they can afford to make more videos?
I suspect that these new studios are a coverup for where the bulk of the money is really going and an excuse to keep begging for more.
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Yet another mo' money video!
by nowwhat? in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
(in the what's new section) apparently jehovah is still failing to provide the necessary funds so have to beg and petition men for support even though we said we'd never do that!.

new angle, if you want to make friends with jehovah and jesus we need more of your unrighteous riches .

apparently jehovah is in the protection racket now.
Listener

I gather this was a morning worship for the Bethelites - who have made a vow of poverty. I wondered what he was doing lecturing them for more money.
These Bethelites and many are Elders go out to Congregations so I gather the talk is to indoctrinate them with the attitude that they must promote the idea of asking for the congregation members for their unrighteous riches.
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The JW governing body are ALREADY priests!
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
how many jw's are aware they have "priests?".

w02 5/1 p. 16 par.

9 jehovah hates the course of treachery - "comparably, for more than a century now, the anointed brothers of christ, those with the heavenly hope, have served as “a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to god.”.
Listener

W 74 4/15
Being accounted as righteous humans, they are accepted by God and begotten as spiritual sons. In this way they are in a standing with God as priests...While still in the flesh they enjoy spiritual enlightenment...Also, while yet on earth, they perform priestly services for others, just as did the ancient Hebrew priests. Being spiritually enlightened and fed, they enlighten others in the understanding of God’s Word, and feed them spiritual nourishment...As ambassadors of God these priests help others to become reconciled to him. (2 Cor. 5:20) Thus they do a very valuable, beneficial spiritual healing work.
(During the paradise) Then they will administer to earthly persons, not only spiritual healing, but also physical healing...Right now we need the help of this priesthood to survive the coming “great tribulation,” which will destroy this system of things.
Their main problem is that they are talking about the remnant of the 144,000, being both males and females and it's just the GB that have been acting in the positions they mention.
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Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture
by Nathan Natas in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

"senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".
Listener

Thanks for the update Jonahstourguide.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Listener

Diogenesister -"That's why I would take that video down if I was KM Marie. Either Kim Silvio must also work for watchtower (or Lloyd), or her cousin doesn't exist. "
I can't believe there are gullible people who believe stupid stuff like this video by KM Marie. It seems that the only credentials a person needs is to make a YouTube video and they'll have ex JWs believe them. Why can't they use their reasoning powers?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Listener

Newly Enlightened, I am curious as to why you feel that video you linked to is necessary viewing.
Do you really believe they are the words of her cousin who is working inside the British Branch? The balance of evidence would say that it is not.
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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?
by enoughisenough in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?

to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.

as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.
Listener

From the OP Watchtower quote
" 1919, a time of spiritual revival, Jesus selected capable anointed brothers from among them to be the faithful and discreet slave and appointed them over his domestics."
Where is the evidence for this? Reality shows that there was no change in this hierarchical arrangement from one year to the next. The Watchtower doesn't even bother to name who these capable, anointed brothers were.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Listener

Thanks Joel/Pasta Hour for your comments on this thread. Part of the aim has been to try to get as much facts recorded in the one place and that's happening here. As you well know, efforts to expose him in the past have largely failed and hopefully this won't happen again.
I don't recall seeing the posts written by 'John Smith' that made Lloyd so angry in the first place.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Listener

SBF He prefers what he (mistakenly) regards as weaker targets - smaller xJW channels.
Probably because he's got away with it for far too long.