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  In spite of the Australian Royal Commission...

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-29/jehovahs-witnesses-not-reporting-all-child-sex-abuse-to-police-/103320582.

  national news story in australia today.. the inquiry heard that since the 1950s, the witnesses hid more than 1,000 cases of child sexual abuse.the faith group did not report one case to police over that time.the royal commission was announced in 2012 and the final report was delivered in 2017.in the wake of the institutional failings exposed by the commission, western australia’s mandatory reporting requirements were expanded to include religious ministers in 2021.it meant that they would have to report child sexual abuse to authorities.however, despite it being post royal commission, documents show how the religious group conducted its own internal investigation.the religious leaders did not report the matter to police.

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  The abusers lawyer stated

  "Noting that Kezia Whitton was and remain able to report the matter to the police, should she so wish. And that is what Mr Whitton expected at those times. But that did not happen until 2021. So certainly, he attended the church for that investigation with the expectation that the matter would go further, and it did not do so until 2021.”

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  The organisation will not report the abuser, even when they confess and neither do they require the abuser to confess to police as demonstration of their repentance. It is then left to the abused to report it which is not acceptable from a christian point of view.
  
  
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  When The 'Tower Is Mentioned In A Will

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i assume someone from wt attends the reading of the will.

  an elder, a co, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?.

  what is the procedure?.

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  Thomas More, where do I sign☺️
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  When The 'Tower Is Mentioned In A Will

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i assume someone from wt attends the reading of the will.

  an elder, a co, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?.

  what is the procedure?.

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  In Australia there is no formal reading of the Will. I imagine this only occurs if someone requests it. The executor of the Will would decide that or it may be a required act listed in the Will.

  The executor of the Will, who had been appointed by the deceased is required to execute it in accordance to the deceased’s written instructions. If the Watchtower has been left anything they may or may not know.

  From what I’ve read, it is the Branch office that overseas anything left to the Watchtower and they could use anyone in the organisation to assist with it. That’s if it is necessary, The executor may be able to deal with it directly with the branch.
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  teddenzo - I suppose they are saying it’s a bit like the Bible says there will be a resurrection of the unrighteous. Maybe they think unrighteous can also survive Armageddon now since they said it would be stupid to hope your loved ones die beforehand.

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  You might be on to something there.

  It’s never made sense that most JWs and everyone else are judged at Armageddon and only good JWs will survive, the rest dying forever. Then good and bad people are resurrected with all reaching perfection by the end of 1,000 years after Armageddon and at that time the Jws who were already judged at Armageddon will be judged again. Everyone else (except those killed in Noah’s day/Soddom & Gomorrah/ etc.) will be judged for the first time.

  Some more changes in doctrine must be coming.
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  2024 Regional convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone answer the question about the regional convention?

  has there been 2024 all three days convention released yet?

  videos and all?.

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  Utter nonsense. The matter is simply explained in WT publications. Jesus was enthroned in 1914 and later in his reign as King will carry out a specific assignment as described in Matt 25:31 of the separating of the sheep and the goats. Such an understanding of prophecy is eschatology at its best using the best principles of exegesis and eisegesis.

  scholar JW

  Let’s deal in facts, Scholar. Enough is enough is hardly writing what you term ‘utter nonsense’ and there is nothing that you could call ‘simply explained’ within the pages of the Watchtower.

  When you find different interpretations for the sheep and the goats within those same magazines and with ‘simple explanations’ for those different interpretations with very different conclusions, you have a serious problem. You also end up with what could be considered, a word salad, creating different scenarios for whomsoever of the GB sees fit at any point in time.
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  Hip replacement on Monday. Wish me luck.

  by GrreatTeacher in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as the title says i'm having a total hip replacement on monday.

  the pain has grown over the years and now i'm using a cane to walk.

  after steroid injections and physical therapy, it was decided that a total hip replacement is appropriate.

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  Just checking in Great Teacher, to see how you're doing?
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  Geoffrey Jackson has a beard now

  by Tahoe in

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  I wonder if Jackson was first amongst the GB to try and emulate Pastor Russel?
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  JWs And Superstitions

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  prompted by a mention in a different thread.. cracks in the sidewalk, a pinch of salt over the shoulder, black cats🐈‍⬛; do jws have such superstitious beliefs.

  are they allowed to?

  would they be counselled if the elders became aware?.

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  I was going to ask if anyone has tried playing Rutherford's records backwards but realised there's no need to.

  His talks were very creepy.
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  "We're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days....

  by Ron.W. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days, shortly before the last day of the last days!!!".

  how are they going to phrase this in ten years time......

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  Jackson said we wouldn't shoot the dog for it's false warnings but I think it should be. It's drawn too much blood from too many people.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  His drinking may have resulted in a serious fall with broken bones requiring ten's of thousands in medical bills and rehabilitation. That would be enough for him to be disgraced and thrown off the GB and why he hasn't been seen.

  He wouldn't be in any position to refuse financial assistance or accepting new arrangements.