i was listening to a youtube where a pastor relates his experience of attending a jw memorial.
he said something that was profound to me.. "how do you have a memorial for someone alive?".
they use this phrase all the time, even printing thousands and thousands of invitations to invite everyone to join them in doing this.. i googled that phrase to see what other christian church's use this phrase and was astounded to see that at least the first two pages of results are in relation to jw's only..
TxNVSue2023, could you provide a scripture where Jesus commanded that his death be observed?
Remembering the sacrifice that Jesus made by partaking of the emblems is a far different concept to passing the emblems from one person to another without partaking.
i was listening to a youtube where a pastor relates his experience of attending a jw memorial.
he said something that was profound to me.. "how do you have a memorial for someone alive?".
they use this phrase all the time, even printing thousands and thousands of invitations to invite everyone to join them in doing this.. i googled that phrase to see what other christian church's use this phrase and was astounded to see that at least the first two pages of results are in relation to jw's only..
I was listening to a Youtube where a Pastor relates his experience of attending a JW memorial. He said something that was profound to me.
"How do you have a memorial for someone alive?"
They use this phrase all the time, even printing thousands and thousands of invitations to invite everyone to join them in doing this.
I googled that phrase to see what other Christian Church's use this phrase and was astounded to see that at least the first two pages of results are in relation to JW's only.
from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.
decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.
and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.
Rattigan, the point is, none of this guess work is found in scripture and the problem is, where is it from? The Watchtower says they think some of it is from the anointed, in heaven, by ones who were resurrected beginning sometime between 1918 and 1935 but they are not sure.
The Governing Body are getting spirit communications but they don’t know who they come from.
from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.
decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.
and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.
Ernest, you say there doesn’t seem to be any scriptural reason to believe that the heavenly calling ended in 1935, only circumstance. There is no circumstance to prove it ended then. Neither is there any scriptural reason for the great crowd being identified in 1935 or for the resurrection beginning some time between 1918 and 1935. None.
You say it is fact that one of the 24 elders revealed the identity of the great crowd to John. How could they reveal it to him if none of them were even in heaven at the time?
from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.
decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.
and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.
Ernest, you are right.
They base 1918 on the idea that it is 3.5 years after Jesus was made King in 1914 due to some speculation regarding Jesus himself.
Then they conclude it must have occurred prior to 1935 because Rutherford came up with the idea of the identity of the Great crowd as being the other sheep. They claim this new revelation was likely communicated to them by the resurrected anointed.
However, with all this speculation they overlooked one thing. They make the bold statement that the 1935 great crowd revelation was definitely communicated to them. Since it wasn’t made up by Rutherford and it wasn’t from the bible, they admit to it being revealed to them somehow, they just aren’t sure who communicated it to them.
So we get back to the OP’s question. How does the GB get enlightenment? For some things they do know, for others, they just don’t know and resort to speculation.
from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.
decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.
and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.
Biaha, they believe the 144,000 anointed who have died began to be resurrected to heaven in 1914.
from the earliest of times of the catholic church's ecumenical councils were used to make major changes to its doctrinal direction.
decisions were made by bishops, they were ratified by the pope ... and it was done.
and the laity had to accepted them or not.. and while splinter catholic religions accepted most of these councils, non-trinitarian faiths which developed latter (of which jehovah's witnesses are apart) did not.
This is from the 2007 1/1 Watchtower where they conclude that the resurrected anointed are involved in revealing new truths to them
” 11 What, then, can we deduce from the fact that one of the 24 elders identifies the great crowd to John? It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. Why is that important? Because the correct identity of the great crowd was revealed to God’s anointed servants on earth in 1935. If one of the 24 elders was used to convey that important truth, he would have had to be resurrected to heaven by 1935 at the latest. That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935. Can we be more precise?”
jehovah's witnesses pimos: beware of this great & present danger!.
to see the video that covers this topic, please click here:.
https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102.
Religion - 'It's a snare and a racket'
2024-05-may-s-147-dress and grooming-announcements and reminders!.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/4d0d5bcf.
grandpa!.
Here's a copy of what Winder/Watchtower claims to be the dress of 100 years ago in Update No. 3
the jehovah's witnesses have lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a new zealand royal commission.
"a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church challenging a ruling by the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the court of appeal.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/515102/abuse-in-care-inquiry-jehovah-s-witness-appeal-dismissed.
It's disgusting how the organization does everything it can to avoid scrutiny of their damaging policies rather than humbly accepting assistance to improve.
