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templelijah

by turtleturtle in

is templelijah serious when he posted this to his blog?.

http://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/gb-stephen-lett-flashes-666-hand-sign/.

what is your take on this elijah?

I'm stunned, I am just looking at a website that discusses the illuminati. There are pages and pages discussing it and in the introduction it is stated that their are 13 bloodlines in particular that are the illuminati (their main aim is to control the world as the NWO). This is the list of the 13 bloodlines:

1. Astor
2. Bundy
3. Collins
4. DuPont
5. Freeman
6. Kennedy
7. Li (Chinese)
8. Onassis
9. Rockefeller
10. Rothschild
11. Russell
12. van Duyn
13. Merovingian (European Royal Families)

The Russell line that is mentioned is the very JW Charles T Russell. It is no wonder the GB is distancing itself from him with their new light (funny but that relates very well with enlightenment - illuminati) regarding the identity of the FDS.

My daughter has been asking me to seriously research more about the Illumanti as she herself has been. She is shocked and can now see evidence of it everywhere.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_russell_bloodline.htm

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How do I disprove "New Light"?

by DarkFireWolf in

i currently am a jw and my parents are too.they seem either confused or dislike it when i raise questions and recently, when i questioned them about 1925 and 1975, i've been told it's changed due to "new light.

" i don't remember nor do i have very much knowledge of "new light.".

this "new light" just dosen't sit with me and neither do the false prophecies.new light first of all, breaks a scripture in deut.

Listener

Ask them where the old light came from - was it God or the GB? If they say God then we know God cannot lie. If they say the GB and they are imperfect men then you can work in the circular and point out that if the old light wasn't from God then there is no reason to believe the new light is either.

Their 'light' theory is based on the idea that they have been in the darkness and it is only a gradual process for them to move to new light under the direction of God. If that is the case then there would be no flip flops of which there are many examples. One for instance is the question of whether those that died in Sodom & Gomorah would be resurrected, they have flip flopped from yes to no many times. They cannot be moving out of the darkness if they are continually changing their opinions.

Ask them for the scriptures that support the new light idea and look at the context to see if it fits this idea.

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templelijah

by turtleturtle in

is templelijah serious when he posted this to his blog?.

http://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/gb-stephen-lett-flashes-666-hand-sign/.

what is your take on this elijah?

Listener

Thanks for your answer Templejah. I very much agree that being aware of what is going on will make it much easier to recognize the proper thecratic authority. It does bother me when I consider Adam and Eve, Eve was decieved and she was perfect.

There is much of the JW teachings that you believe and I am wondering if you go along with the idea that the 144,000 is a literal figure even though there must have been many more believers in the true God from the time of Jesus' presence on Earth? Also, Revelation discusses the 12 tribes individually making up the 144,000 (12,000 in each tribe). Do you have any thoughts as to what each of the tribes represents?

I understand that there is a special group of anointed that will reign with Jesus which could be compared to the Levites but I don't think that limits there being other anointed ones (or born again) who will not be Kings and Priests but rather form part of God's chosen people.

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2012 Annual Meeting

by allyouneedislove in

i just wanted to let everyone know that i can confirm the new "light", regarding the gb, given at the 2012 annual meeting.

i am confirming the initial post on this link:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/239637/1/2012-annual-meeting-more-notes.

Listener

Why are you disappointed about this allyouneedislove?

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templelijah

by turtleturtle in

is templelijah serious when he posted this to his blog?.

http://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/gb-stephen-lett-flashes-666-hand-sign/.

what is your take on this elijah?

Listener

TempleJah said "A point being all this xGB and occultic "evidence" is for a linear, point a-sin to point b-stumble, distractive reason from this MOL, for people to stumble and leave the JW organization or never come to the truth that is also here, (RATHER than SEE it is prophetic guarantee! It is GOOD news!), hence why Satan is here doing subversive, masterfully deceptive works, as per prophecy of 2Thess2:3-12 in 2Cor11:13-15 disguised mode of operation; (See Zech3:1 "Satan standing" IN the xGB "right hand")"

I am interested to know what you think about those that have left the organization or have considered returning and chosen not to be part of this JW organization as led by the current GB? It is impossible for me (and many others) to contemplate returning to it. It is not good enough to advise a person to just beware of not putting too much trust and obedience in them because this is the very thing they expect if one is to consider themselves a JW.

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Watchtower desperation and Mind Control...

by DATA-DOG in

notice the latest " biblical " view of education promulgated by the governing body/ slave.

this is from the september 15, 2012 study edition.

paragraph 16 of the " learn from the patience of jehovah and jesus ", had this to say.. 16 something that interferes with our manifesting godly patience is a wait and see attitude.

Listener

Yet they are moving from Brooklyn for financial security.

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templelijah

by turtleturtle in

is templelijah serious when he posted this to his blog?.

http://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/gb-stephen-lett-flashes-666-hand-sign/.

what is your take on this elijah?

Listener

I've no doubt it is 20451point numbers but his writing is becoming easier to read.

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The Governing Body Myth

by DATA-DOG in

whatever your feelings about god or the bible, you may agree that thier manner of communication is very nice.

when the matter could not be resolved, paul and barnabas took the issue back to the congregation of the brothers who originated the problem - the jerusalem congregation.

we learn from this account, not that the jerusalem congregation served as a headquarters or governing body that handed down instruction and guidance for the other congregations.

Listener

No doubt they will explain how they already listen to those in authority working outside of Bethal. Notes on the annual meeting include this statement ...Where do the ideas come from (always asked). There is no hole in the ceiling of the GB conference room! Receive reports from branchs, Zone, and other travelling overseers... There is a recording of a speach given by Fred Franz in 1975 titled 'Was there a 1st Century Governing Body?' He argues that there wasn't.

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