Apparently even though they were able to see something invisible in 1914, it was too dark to see it properly and took another 100 years with new light to clearly see it.
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Saw the invisible, but didn't see ourselves
by Marvin Shilmer inthe recent chart-thumping nonsense from governing body member david splane inspired a new article on my blog.
it highlights the level of "spiritual discernment" demonstrated by these men, and those who follow them.
saw the invisible, but didn't see ourselves .
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Jeneration Jokes
by prologos init is cruel to make fun of the pathetic attempts of br.
splane to come clean of the 1914 and generation predicament, but it is not only funny, for lives are seriously affected, but hey, having a humorous, irreverent outlook helps, so.
here are prologos', copy-righted contributions of.
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The GB members were once overlappers, now they're just the underlappers.
When can a person be of two generations? Mark Sanderson is part of one generation being from the second group or underlappers of 'this generation' and since around '92 now becomes part of the second generation because his life overlaps with the third group anointed after that date.
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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Prologos -But they were able to cite concrete examples like F.Franz's ~86 year tenure as a partaker. We must assume then, to be relevant, that the unknown "anointed" exceeded that duration, and the conclusion from that is:
the rapture, the paradise lays beyond 2075, the time of the 100 year anniversary of 1975;-- just like the centennial of 1914 is also already past.Ultimately they've stuffed up with their new light. Their aim was to make it seem that the remaining time is very short and every time they explain this new teaching this is what they try to conclude.
Maybe this is why they keep trying new ways of explaining this teaching because the sheepies aren't getting the point of the whole excercise. They have not once said it could be as long as 2075, they try to claim the opposite by continually pointing out that those in the second group are well advanced in years.
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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The GB have failed to keep a diligent watch by their own admission - 'we just don't know'
Splane said that they didn't know when the the last of the anointed in the first group died and when the last of the second group became anointed which, according to their interpretation, would have been before the last of the first group died. He said they just didn't know.
However, he proudly named numerous anointed persons from both the first group and the second group. He didn't say that these people alleged they were anointed, he said they were and was able to identify them by name.
They keep detailed records of publications printed, distributed, hours of witnessing work, number of publishers and the list goes on but he cannot identify the end date of the first group and the last person in the second group. They are the elite, true brothers and are supposed to be working together in the body of Christ.
They profess to know what Jesus meant by this generation but fail to keep adequate track of the anointed in order to make better application of Jesus' words. Only they could have done this by their own reckoning and they failed, they just don't know.
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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Baldeagle, when you have the power to decide your own answers you'll win every time. Problem is, they might not like the prize. -
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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I love the way he asks the JW viewer to think about what scripture they would use to explain the meaning of a generation, pauses and then comes up with a scripture that he thinks applies.
What he was really saying was - 'now that we, the GB, have come up with a new, complicated idea to explain that this generation doesn't mean anything close the common language meaning of the term, we need to twist other scriptures to support the idea. Help us out brothers and think of other scriptures that you think we might be able to use. We gave you the idea now you support it biblically.'
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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The WTS invests in military industries?
by Achille inwhat do you think of this document?
the wts invests in military industries?.
https://app.box.com/s/bwgbd3759t49wskwwdpo8lsgeu1rw5fc .
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The link above will provide more information
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New light from GB member David Splane!
by Island Man inin the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.
"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.
would he be part of joseph's generation?
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That is what he is saying Marvster which makes his interpretation of Ex 1:6 screwed up. He is defining it in minute detail whereas the scripture is just referring to him and his brothers being in that generation. -
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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Splane makes special mention that Franz was baptized in 1913 so in 1914 he qualified to be considered as one of the anointed that discerned the times of the end and therefore part of the first group. Back in 1914 up to about 1935 all those baptized were considered to be anointed. I think he is making the point that those of the second group would be considered to be of that group, not when they were born or even baptized but at the time they considered themselves anointed and before the death of the last anointed person in the first group.
This wouldn't be so bad if they were just speculating once again.. It would be easy to excuse their speculation on the basis that they are just trying to maintain an urgency amongst the sheep so that they remain on the watch. But they are not merely speculating. They claim that this teaching is what Jesus meant when he said 'this generation'. Splane also lists a number of men who were and are anointed, he doesn't say that these people 'claim' to be of the anointed but states it as fact.