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  How do I handle this situation?

  by BarelyThere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey everyone.

  i'm sorry that this isn't a very thought provoking post but i could really use some advice on how to handle this.

  there isn't anyone else in my life i can ask right now because, being dfed, all of my friends are "worldly" and don't know how witnesses function.

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  Listener

  It demonstrates the sort of people that are appointed to positions of MS or Elder and it says a lot about their process and spiritual insight.

  They already know that they have people like this in these positions because there are articles stating that the r&f are not to murmur about them and if you feel they have done wrong then you just have to accept it.

  Keep the messages and there may be a time in the future that you want to show your loved ones who are still in just how this organization operates.
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  What is truth?

  by Heisenberg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

  i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

  they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

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  Fisherman -
  Non sequitur, WT has never taught that the truth of God's word has ever changed and neither does the attitude that they comment on referenced in your post represent that of JW.

  • They have themselves changed the Bible, deleting certain scriptures that they had previously included in their bible is just one example.

    Quote from JW org re Truth - They hold that truth—especially moral and spiritual truth—is not absolute but relative and ever changing.

    They hold to this view by their ever changing doctrines, both in re-interpretations and flip flopping on ideas.
    

    This, of course, implies that people can determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong.

    This is what they conclude when there is ever changing truth. They get to choose what is right and what is wrong by their own interpretations. There are many examples of them changing their minds about what is right and what is wrong, I am sure you are familiar with some of them.

    As for truth from God's word, that doesn't change.

    
    
    
    
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  What is truth?

  by Heisenberg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

  i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

  they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

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  • Fisherman - Getting back to truth, "Truth that leads to eternal life" is a book that contained the truth back in time but today a lot of that information is no longer the truth, hence truth is not what people think the Bible says, however, truth is God's promises that never change and will be fulfilled when the time comes. -Revelation 21:4,5
  • There is a question on JW org asking 'What is Truth' and it says this in part

  • This disdainful attitude toward truth is shared by many today, including religious leaders, educators, and politicians. They hold that truth—especially moral and spiritual truth—is not absolute but relative and ever changing. This, of course, implies that people can determine for themselves what is right and what is wrong. (Isaiah 5:20, 21)

  • Thanks for the reminder about the 'truths' held in the book written by the WTBTS and how it has changed, therefore we can see that the JWs must include themselves in that statement.
    
    
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  A possible reason why the GB are becoming more demanding as things worsen

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  basically because they feel they are not being blessed.. this is not to say that all gb members feel this way.

  the power hungry ones love getting the whip out.

  the other members incorrectly look to the old testament for answers.. they are telling the sheep to be faithful, dedicated, self sacrificing, serving to the fullest, whole hearted and obedient.

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  Listener

  Basically because they feel they are not being blessed.

  This is not to say that all GB members feel this way. The power hungry ones love getting the whip out. The other members incorrectly look to the old testament for answers.

  They are telling the sheep to be faithful, dedicated, self sacrificing, serving to the fullest, whole hearted and obedient. Most articles and videos are telling the sheep to give more. More of their time to field service, the building work, to study, reaching out, giving more money, not to have children and not to spend more than a couple of years in higher education
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  What happens when Christian Entrepreneurs speak their truth?

  by Kym M. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on january 29th 2016, profit with passion!

  summit will bring together for 3 days some of the most dynamic and influential christian entrepreneurs, leaders and thinkers to share their testimonies of faith, business, and success in doing business, not their way, but god’s way.

  be a witness to 30+ christian entrepreneurs during this free virtual summit.

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  Is the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society one of your clients? If not, you could learn a few things from them, they've been very successful....so far.
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  I gave the elders some ammo to use

  by atacrossroads in

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  2. friends

  i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.

  a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.

  if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.

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  Congratulations Atacrossroads, expecting a baby is wonderful and having the full support of your husband is really good news.
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  New WT pdf tells children to report. Irony?

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  pdf.

  why won't watchtower tell abusers "i'm going to tell on you!

  " and follow through with the proper authorities?

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  Parents, read Awake! October 2007 and October 8, 1993. Now play a game of
  “What if . . . ?” with your child. Ask how your child would respond to different scenarios.
  Children, practice how to respond.

  
  The whole instruction sheet is so odd and so out of touch, it borders on being really weird, especially with calling it a game and the play acting.

  Ask how your child would respond to different scenarios.

  
  Shouldn't that be "Ask you child how they would respond to different scenarios" or even more appropriately, giving the subject matter - "Ask you child to explain how they would respond to different scenarios"?
  Is it just me or maybe some difference between American language and Australian language?
  
  
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  Youtube video: Amazing Sermon ....Love Identifies The True Christian Congregation

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just came across a video on youtube.com.highlighted in yellow is what was written about this video.i could only watch the first couple of minutes!.bring out your puke bags or hit yourself in the head with a hammer after reading this grand,blown out of proportion discription of this talk!

  if someone can imbed this video i would appreciate it!.

  published on feb 15, 2014. in this lecture here "love identifies the true christian congregation", a dynamic and wise christian elder discusses the gospel of john, christian love and unity, the book of acts, 1st corinthians, philippians, the first-century true christian congregation, and the new covenant witnesses of the most high today.

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  I wonder if the speaker understands that according to their doctrine, the true Christian congregation and the New Covenant Christians are only made up of the anointed.
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  Question about the number 2,520 and the book “New Heavens and a New Earth” (1953)

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  question about the number 2,520 and the book “new heavens and a new earth” (1953).

  there is a footnote on page 138 of this book; it has to do with the number 2,520 being a perfect number and the result of multiplying the four perfect numbers in sequence.

  i have done the math and it works.

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  Listener

  There are many more than just those four numbers noted in that book. A title search shows that 2,520 is an abundant number and therefore not a perfect number.
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  New WT pdf tells children to report. Irony?

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  pdf.

  why won't watchtower tell abusers "i'm going to tell on you!

  " and follow through with the proper authorities?

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  Great, make a game out of discussing child abuse.