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  Caption This Photo From The January Study Edition

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so as some are probably aware the january study edition has two articles on the anointed.

  one basically discouraging people from believing they are anointed and another about how ones should view partakers.

  this photo is from the second article:.

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  Funny how the person in the photo appears to be over 50 and male.
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  The fallacy of the faithful and discrete slave

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as many of us that understand the parable to be just that, a parable, is there a way that a jw can actually question it, even if so is done under the idea that is actually a prophecy?.

  we are all very familiar with deuteronomy 18:22 and the way to identify a true prophet.

  is there a way you could possibly identify a bad prophet as soon as the prophecy is revealed?

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  You make a good point, why are we supposed to believe that they have got it right today? How can they be the appointed fds if they were never sure who was being appointed in the first place?
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  Watchtower go full on propaganda!

  by David Graham in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i see the watchtower are getting extremely desperate now.http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/25503-injustice-abounds-for-our-dear-russian-brothers/check out the professionally edited video, using professional equipment!

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  If the literature is being planted then where is the government obtaining this literature from? Are the Russians making a special request to the USA to mail them this literature or having special agents smuggle it in?
  There are enough confessions in their own textbooks to show that they have no problem with breaking the law by distributing banned literature.
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  Are you an agronomist or a farmer? If so, I need your help. Related to Miracle Wheat

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am doing some investigation on the miracle wheat episode, and i have a question that i don't know the answer to, and i can't find the answer online.. it seems that, from what i have learnt online, that wheat is a self-pollinating, "perfect flower".

  this means that once there is a strain that has a quality that's desirable, all you have to do is plant it, and that feature will remain "forever".

  essentially the new plants are all clones.given that information, this statement by penton does not make sense:.

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  I love Ttatt, I don't know if you have seen this site which has a lot of information about the 'miracle wheat'. It is in support of Russell.

  http://ctr-rlbible.com/?p=122
  

  What is interesting is that he promotes the idea that all Russell was interested in the wheat because it showed what was possible in the future paradise. Wt 1909 he states

  Assuredly, as our text suggests, when the Lord’s time shall come he will be well able to call for the increase of the grain for the benefit of the world of mankind, whom he so loved as to redeem and for whom the blessings of restitution are shortly to be made available. — Acts 3:19-21.

  If it lost it's outstanding properties then using it as an example for future possibilities was pointless.

  
  
  
  
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  Pioneer Identiffication Number

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  saw in atlantis post re pioneer school abroad this in brnch letter.

  piioneer identification number.

  so do publishers get one, are the jws now just numbers?.

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  I doubt it, the GB don't even know who, along with themselves, make up the body of Christ and are their own brothers and sisters in the truest spiritual sense. They just amount to a total and even that is questioned by them.
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  DA letter sent... It was weird!

  by Mandrake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well i was telling you days ago that i wrote my da letter... i decided to deliver it myself to the elders.

  it'a been about a year i didn't show up nor talk to the majority of old friends.

  one of my best friends (who's is 2-3 years older than me, i'm 25) is now an elder... some times i don't understand him, he's an engineer from a prestigious university (the most prestigious universities here in chile, are 2, the one from where he got his degree and the one i'm attending)... he even red crisis of conscience and has doubts... but still endured inside.. my congo were based in our historic city downtown, so our territory was small... i parked my car near the hall and walked near for a while while the meeting was over.

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  Mandrake, your post is very moving. I can see that English is not your first language and there are mistakes academically, which is neither here nor there because you get an A+ for the message that you conveyed. I can only begin to imagine how beautiful you must write in your native language.

  It is wonderful that you found the strength to hand deliver your letter which must have taken a lot of courage. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  The Governing Body members should initiate a private audit into the whole of the operations of the Watchtower Society but I don't think they can, they have no authority having resigned from the Board in 2000.
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  My cat died suddenly!

  by Fisherman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i did not realize that they were symptoms that something was wrong with my cat -but i did notice that my cat was breathing a little differently for a period of about a few days.

  i also noticed prior and after to that, that on occasion, my cat would cry at the litter box, but that was a very seldom event.. anyway, about a week ago i noticed the symptom that my very loved cat was breathing heavy.

  so i called a taxi and i was going to rush him to emergency room for cats.

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  Sorry to hear about your loss Fisherman, it's sad to lose a pet.
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  Can Katie Kitten get up to 100% UK coverage with our help?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  very good idea for activism in the uk.

  they've already contacted over 60 congregations about not destroying evidence the government may require, which must be about 5% of congregations in the uk.

  getting near to 100% shouldn't be out of reach.

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  This is what the IICSA Independant Inquiry into child abuse states

  The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse will investigate whether public bodies and other non-state institutions have taken seriously their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse in England and Wales.

  https://www.iicsa.org.uk/
  
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  Finding time

  by Jordandemm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it possible to full time pioneer while working a full time job without making up the hours?

  i know of a brother who recently got married too a pioneer the guy was really desperate to get married because his wife despite her many 'spiritual credentials' has very few christ-like qualities unfortunately, anyway that's besides the point.

  he is a pioneer now and i'm sure he will be a ms soon the organisation likes that type of stuff the 'pioneer couple' so it shouldn't come as a surprise.

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  This is from the jw org online about pioneers

  The term “pioneer” often refers to those who explore new territories and open up a way for others to follow. Jesus was a pioneer of sorts, having been sent to the earth to perform a life-giving ministry and to open the way to salvation. (Matthew 20:28) Today, his followers are imitating him by spending as much time as possible ‘making disciples.’ (Matthew 28:19, 20) Some have been able to take up what we call the pioneer service.
  A pioneer is a full-time evangelizer. All of Jehovah’s Witnesses are publishers of the good news. However, some have organized their life to serve as regular pioneers, spending 70 hours each month in the preaching work. To do this, many limit their secular work to part-time

  Notice the last section which suggests that there are some that continue to work full time.

  At 70 hours a month, it equates to 16 hours a week. (66 hours a week - FT job and pioneering). I thought this would not be unusual for people in the US who have two jobs, a job with lots of overtime or a secular job requiring this.

  Just as a side point I found the statements by the org interesting and a bit more honest than usual, although still obscure to a degree. They basically admit that they are not using the word 'pioneer' in its normal meaning.