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if you had the slightest of doubt about leaving leaving the watchtower org. go to to jwsurvey.org NOW!

by nowwhat? in

and we are suposed to trust these guys with our lives?

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Listener

Good point that you made Sir 82 in response to their commentary regarding the Telly Awards

Hmm, what a glowing testimonial!
I wonder if anyone else has had such high-falutin' praise?

In attempting to garner more glowing adulation for themselves in winning the awards they needed to promote and glorify the Telly Awards. This becomes an editorial advertisement for a commercial entity and JWs are paying for it.

It's ironic that the Telly Awards are specifically designed for the promotion and advertising of the film industry. In other words, the Watchtower not only becomes involved in the business of advertising but are promoting a business that facilitates the advertising of businesses.

I doubt that they are even making these video's under their own steam but engaging professionals. I remember seeing one video that gave credit at the end to an outside firm. I wonder how many Bethelites they've sent off to have special training even though they have decided to change their policy in regards to having them trained as lawyers.

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if you had the slightest of doubt about leaving leaving the watchtower org. go to to jwsurvey.org NOW!

by nowwhat? in

and we are suposed to trust these guys with our lives?

!

Listener

It demonstrates how low they are prepared to go to make themselves look good.

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Loud Fence [s]

by geevee in

hi all, whilst i have been a member of this forum since 2004, i have slowed down in my visits and comments.

i have called in to ask if there has been any discussion on the "loud fence" campaign that is to be seen vividly around our home town of ballarat victoria australia?

there are many catholic institutions around this town that have had ribbons of many colors looped onto their fences in support and acknowledgment of child rape/abuse and also as survivors.

Listener

That's an excellent initiative GeeVee. I'm in Western Australia and haven't heard anything about it. Coloured ribbons on a Kingdom Hall wouldn't mean anything if the public didn't know the significance behind it. Given the publicity in your hometown, it's a fantastic idea.

This will be really embarrassing for JWs. They won't know who's put them there but because it's not an initiative directed by the Watchtower they'll have to remove them, therefore demonstrating that they are showing a lack of support to those abused. That may just help to wake up some sleeping JWs.

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Chitty

by StopTheTears in

jw
friends

i've learned that many years ago, there was a man named brother chitty of some prominence in the jehovah's witnesses organization.

it fact, chitty was a member of the governing body.

chitty was asked to resign his position after serving for many years and nothing much was ever said about it to jehovahs witnesses.

Listener

Fisherman - Also, It is unfair to defame a man from accusations without first listening to his defense.

You have no idea how you belittle people by your comments sometimes. Remember you're talking to heaps of disfellowshipped/disassociated JWs here who are defamed by JWs without listening to their defense and unlike the ones mentioned here, I bet you they were willing to speak their defense if only they'd been given the courtesy of being asked.

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Lady drives car into Kingdom Hall

by Sugar Shane in

right smack into (what looks like) the front entry!.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-13/78yo-female-driver-crash-jehovahs-witnesses-church/7243268.

this was in australia, but the khs i've seen (in the us) are designed so that you'd have to almost intentionally want to ram a building to cause this kind of damage.

Listener

It must have been a terrible shock for her.

I was at the Doctors today and noticed a few elderly people who had somehow got themselves to the surgery on their own. There are many older drivers who shouldn't be driving and feel very nervous to do so but don't have much choice. Some of the less confident drivers will limit themselves to driving locally and very slowly.

If she's a JW then she might get offers to be picked up in the future.

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Just in time for Memorial season...

by OutsiderLookingIn in

this is short and quick but maybe it's a seed to plant in the 10 days until the memorial.

i have talked to jws who tell me their reason for not eating the bread and drinking the cup is because that was only a new covenant with his disciples (and in their wonky extension, the 144,000).

but i just thought of a few things.

Listener

The other sheep are simply assisting the anointed. They do recognize that it is the anointed that has been given the responsibility of preaching/teaching but since they have asked the other sheep, the other sheep are required to be obedient to the anointed and assist them carrying out this work.

W07 11/1

This is so because he uses the anointed to proclaim the Kingdom message. The “other sheep” help in bringing spiritual refreshment to people by actively supporting the anointed in the preaching work. (John 10:16) What a privilege it is to share in this work, which brings true refreshment to others!

However, it gets even more interesting when you consider that not long ago they viewed the other sheep as their 'belongings' in relation to the FDS parable. They are no longer belongings but 'domestics' but as 'belongings' they believed this applied -

W08 8/15

GOD’S WORD identifies anointed Christians who are caring for Christ’s interests on earth as “the faithful and discreet slave.” When Christ inspected the “slave” in 1918, he found those anointed ones on earth to be faithful in providing spiritual “food at the proper time.” Hence, Jesus, the Master, was pleased thereafter to appoint them “over all his belongings.” (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) In this way, before receiving a heavenly inheritance, anointed ones serve other worshippers of Jehovah here on earth.
2 A master has authority over his belongings, or possessions, and he can use them as he chooses. The belongings of Jesus Christ, Jehovah’s enthroned King, embrace all Kingdom interests on earth. That includes “a great crowd” seen by the apostle John in vision. ...
3 Members of that great crowd are among those referred to by Jesus as his “other sheep.” (John 10:16) Their hope is to live forever on a paradise earth. ....
4 .... They are not independent but willing to serve under the direction of the heavenly King and his anointed brothers on earth.
5 Anointed Christians have met and will continue to meet severe opposition from Satan’s world. Nevertheless, they can rely on the support of their companions of the great crowd. While anointed Christians are now few in number, the great crowd yearly increases by hundreds of thousands. The anointed are unable to oversee personally each of the some 100,000 Christian congregations throughout the world. Thus, one aspect of the support that the anointed receive from the other sheep is that qualified men of the great crowd serve as congregation elders. They help care for the millions of Christians now entrusted to “the faithful and discreet slave.”
6 The willing support given to anointed Christians by their companions of the other sheep was foretold by the prophet Isaiah. He wrote: “This is what Jehovah has said: ‘The unpaid laborers of Egypt and the merchants of Ethiopia and the Sabeans, tall men, will themselves come over even to you, and yours they will become. Behind you they will walk.’” (Isa. 45:14) In a symbolic way, Christians with an earthly hope today walk behind the anointed slave class and its Governing Body, following their leadership. As “unpaid laborers,” the other sheep willingly and wholeheartedly expend their strength and their resources in support of the worldwide preaching work that Christ assigned to his anointed followers on earth.—Acts 1:8; Rev. 12:17.
7 ... By exercising faith and displaying loyalty now, he shows that he will respond well when the King gives him directions in the new world.

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Conspiracy: Did the Watchtower set the memorial for the 23rd, because the GB practice Gematria? see for your selfs.

by goingthruthemotions in

so i have been thinking.

i know this is something taboo to the dubs, but f them.

i am a free moral agent.

Listener

Does this mean they will be a month behind the Jews every year going forward?

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Greg Stafford no longer a JW

by My Struggle in

this may be old news to some while most won't even know who he is.

in case you don't know him, he was a jw that defended many of the jw doctrine publicly.

he did this mainly in the form of two books, jw's defended and three dissertations on the teachings of jw's.

Listener

He posted on his blog on the 6th January, 2016, knocking the JWshttp://elihubooks.blogspot.com.au

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Why all the secrecy in Gods organisation?

by Truthexplorer in

looking back and seeing all the secrecy and cover ups throughout wt history such as the secret elders books, the branch correspondence guidelines, the shameful lying and deceipt exposed during the arc questioning, the in-house way of dealing with things, the lack of openness to the media on issues such as blood or child abuse or anything controversial for that matter.

could this relate in some way to russell's alleged past as a freemason?

it seems quite strange that the founder of the bible students quite possibly may have been a freemason, (an organisation well known for its secrecy).

Listener

CrazyGuy, I don't know how you can allow your boys to have a study with an MS and it's even worse that you are not even home. It is inappropriate, at the very least he should have his wife with him.

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2016 Regional Convention - Invite First Look

by pixel in

you saw it here first!.

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Listener

"No collection will be taken". Who's going to collect all the money dropped in the collection boxes and who's going to collect all the eftpos transactions?