Jeff T - Even though they don't pay taxes they are still required to keep audited accounts. If they have doctored their books then there would be good reason to hide that money.
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Giant Leak of Offshore Financial Records Exposes Global Array of Crime and Corruption
by JHK inmillions of documents show heads of state, criminals and celebrities using secret hideaways in tax havens... [...].
what about watchtower society's holy money?.
https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160403-panama-papers-global-overview.html?goal=0_ffd1d0160d-4ddea55429-100339089&mc_cid=4ddea55429&mc_eid=bfe834e473.
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Memorial of the Death of Jesus 2016
by wolfman85 inin 2016, jw will have their memorial of jesus death on march 23, 2016. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/meetings/#?insight[search_id]=99cee3cb-687e-4276-9c70-3af8d20c220b&insight[search_result_index]=0.
that day is not for nissan 14th of the jewish calendar, or am i wrong ?
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A lot of JWs don't know their own teachings Alex. I've asked a number of JWs why they don't believe Jesus is their mediator as stated in 1 Timothy 2:5 and they say they do.
They will not participate in debates. They shy away from answering questions when we call them at the Branches even though they are Elders. They'll even spend 15 minutes or more explaining that they don't want to answer the question over the phone. They are not likely to reply to letters either.
If they were seriously wanting to answer questions they would make provision for that on JW org, through emails rather than sending out someone to start a bible study.
Generally speaking, if we are not considered right hearted ones then we aren't deserving answers.
Then there are the questions they just won't answer or lie about. Maybe you could explain why they associated with the United Nations for a decade?
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Who was vice president of WT between 1997 and 2000?
by lenaga in1977-1992 milton henschel, 1992-1997 lloyd barry, in 2000 malefant and wallen.
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It looks like it might have been Lloyd Barry. This is the Wiki listing for Pennsylvania WTBTS -
Current[edit]
- Don Alden Adams, director since 2000, president since 2000
- Danny L. Bland, director since 2000
- William F. Malenfant, director since 2000, vice-president since 2000
- Robert W. Wallen, director since 2000, vice-president since 2000
- Philip D. Wilcox, director since 2000
- John N. Wischuk, director since 2000
Directors are listed generally from most to least recent. List may not be complete.- Richard E. Abrahamson (director 2000-2004, secretary-treasurer 2000-2004)
- Milton George Henschel (director 1947–2000, vice-president 1977–1992, president 1992–2000)
- Lyman Alexander Swingle (director 1945–2000)[119]
- W. Lloyd Barry (director ?–1999, vice-president ?–1999)
- Frederick William Franz (director 1945–1992, vice-president 1945–1977, president 1977–1992)[120]
- William K. Jackson (director 1973–1981)[123]
- Nathan Homer Knorr (director 1940–1977, vice-president 1940–1942, president 1942–1977)[124]
- John O. Groh (director 1965–1975)
- Alexander Hugh Macmillan (director 1918–1938)
- Hayden Cooper Covington (director 1940–1945, vice-president 1942–1945)[133]
- Joseph Franklin Rutherford (director 1916–1942, acting president[134] 1916–1917, president 1917–1942)[135]
- R. H. Barber (director 1919)[141]
- Charles H. Anderson (director 1918–?, vice-president 1918–1919)[135]
- J. A. Bohnet (director 1917–?)[135]
- George H. Fisher (director 1917–?)[135]
- W. E. Spill (director 1917–?)[135]
- Andrew N. Pierson (director 1916–1918, vice-president)[129]
- Robert H. Hirsh (director 1917)
- J. D. Wright (director fl1916–1917)[129]
- Isaac F. Hoskins (director fl1916–1917)[129]
- Henry Clay Rockwell (director fl1916–1917)[129]
- Charles Taze Russell (director 1884–1916, president 1884–1916)[143]
- William M. Wright (?–1906)[144]
- Maria Russell (née Ackley) (director 1884–1897, secretary-treasurer 1884–?, then-wife of Charles Taze Russell)[143][147][148]
- J. B. Adamson (director 1884–?)[143]
- Rose J. Ball (director 1884–?)[145]
- Simon O. Blunden (director 1884–?)[145]
- W. C. McMillan (director 1884–?)[143]
- W. I. Mann (director 1884, vice-president 1884)[143]
- J. F. Smith (director 1884)[143]
It's interesting to note that Willaim Malefant, who features in this months broadcast has been Director and Vice President since 2000
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WT Resurrection Hope Absolutely Ridiculous As Illustrated In Their Publications
by JW_Rogue insaw this while browsing through the good news brochure:.
is it any wonder people aren't listening to jws anymore?
what an absolutely delusional scene!
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If a proposed bill in Mexico passes, new law will mean jailtime for JW´s
by ILoveTTATT2 inapparently it's true!!
omg!!.
i did not want to believe these news, i still feel it's a hoax, it can't be true!.
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before you put this week's wt away, look at page 3.--
by prologos inpage 3 or any other side, foot notes and share them.
bored today i looked at page 3 and 2 of the 4 elated willing offerings really looked peeved, simone and eston, even if you serve in a vacation destination, paradise, reality will set in, and it will show as in this telling picture.
and: page 22, it is downhill all the way.
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Special talk outline or highlights?
by stephanie61092 ini apologize if this has already been covered but i've actually had a really busy, fun weekend with friends and family and i haven't been online.
that being said, i missed the special talk yesterday.
does anyone have the outline or highlights of the talk?
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This might be of some help.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4d7okn/special_talk_rebuttal_how_can_we_trust_the_bible/
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How are awake JWs going to deal with the life and death, Dual Power of Suicide, no blood card issue?
by Island Man inthere was a recent leak of a letter to congregations regarding a new dpa no blood card.
part of the letter reads as follows:.
as a reminder, you should provide copies of your completed advance decision document to (1) those who served as witnesses, (2) your general practitioner (doctor), and (3) your congregation secretary.
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I wrote on Atlantis' thread that I was very concerned with the introduction of a new directive which has nothing to do with blood - it is this statement that is now on the directive
4. Regarding end-of-life matters: [initial one of the two choices] (a) I do not want my life to be prolonged if, to a reasonable degree of medical certainty, my situation is hopeless. (b) I want my life to be prolonged as long as possible within the limits of generally accepted medical standards, even if this means that I might be kept alive on machines for years.
My suggestion is that you could point out the problems with including this and that you don't understand why there are only two options and both those are very limited in detail and could lead to undesired consequences. Say that there isn't enough space on the directive to include your personal wishes and you are rewriting it. If you are later asked for a copy of your written form then say that it is personal and since it is different to the official form you see no reason why it should be put on the Congregations file.
If pushed even further, you could ask why it needs to go on the file. Then inform him that you have all basis covered and it's going OTT to have it on that file as well.
Another way to handle it is to treat it very lightly, laugh the matter off, tell the Brother that you've already taken reasonable steps to handle the matter and it's silly to deal with the whole thing by taking it to extremes (putting it on the congregation file). You are looking at this in a reasonable manner and your attitude is that you don't live your life with unfounded worry. -
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2016--Medical Documents & BOE!
by Atlantis in2016 medical documents!..
re: simplified advance decision document.
.. https://we.tl/sj94l0wsir.
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This is extremely worrying
4. Regarding end-of-life matters: [initial one of the two choices] (a) I do not want my life to be prolonged if, to a reasonable degree of medical certainty, my situation is hopeless. (b) I want my life to be prolonged as long as possible within the limits of generally accepted medical standards, even if this means that I might be kept alive on machines for years.
It appears that this statement is new and has wider implications than just blood. This is not the business of the organization to oversee and they are stepping way beyond bible commands and interpretations.
They've already provided a blank section for the individual to add to the directive, so why have they put this statement in, providing the option of only 1 of 2 statements, worded by the org. and way too simplified?
It actually borders on being sinister. They are influencing the individual to choose option 1 as option 2 means that the individual would also be accepting of being kept alive on machines for years. I doubt many people would want that.
With the likelihood of most signing Option 1, I wonder what they are really agreeing to? I do not want my life to be prolonged if, to a reasonable degree of medical certainty, my situation is hopeless. Who determines whether the individuals situation is hopeless and what does hopeless even mean? And when does an individuals situation become hopeless?
There are numerous situations where a person could be left to die by withholding medical aid that makes this a terrible thing to agree to.
For instance, a person may need resuscitation and without applying any of the various methods normally used, the individual would die. When the person is unconscious his situation is hopeless, but in order to prolong his life, resuscitation is applied.
A person may be bleeding to death and his situation is hopeless unless he has medical aid to stop the flow of blood and by doing so his life is prolonged.
What is a Doctor supposed to make of this statement when he first sees the patient? He would realize that without his intervention the individuals situation is hopeless and only by that intervention can he prolong the patients life but if he reads the card, the individual has taken away his authority for the Doctor to intervene.
Hopeless can be defined a number of ways, here is a simple definition of the word: having or feeling no hope
: unable to be changed
: unable to be helped or improved : very bad
A patient may be in a coma and injured his neck. It is unlikely that he will ever walk again, in this aspect his situation is hopeless. The medical team may have no option if they followed the very loose wording in the directive, to turn off the patients machines.
That statement does not even qualify that the situation of hopelessness must be in relation to the prospect of life. It also doesn't qualify anything about the length and quality of that life.
I can see hospitals using this clause to avoid legal repercussions when the care of the patient has gone wrong. There will be cases also that by adhering strictly to the wording of this request that there will be individuals who are not given medical support that would have given them a better outcome.
I am so puzzled as to why the organization is getting itself involved in this.
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Apostles of Denial (1970) -- PDF!
by cabasilas ininformation on how to download the book apostles of denial (1970) by edmond c. gruss will be given at the end of this post.
before this, however, id like to present this introduction:.
apostles of denial a personal recollection and a tribute.
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This looks like a very interesting book and was written in 1970.
The above link from Cabasilas still works.