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  Can anyone allay my suspicions?

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  can you allay my suspicions of wt associated activity?.

  during the last 3 to 4 co visits, i noticed a predeliction on the part of the ladt few co's for taking photos at fs meetings and photos of cong at end of visit.

  i'm beginning to suspect that such is not because the co's have a newly found socially engaging disposition (being cool).

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  The new blood card also gives authority for the organisation to have medical knowledge about individuals.
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  JW Broadcasting is the likely end of the road for JWs

  by oldskool in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i started leaving the group in 04', and quit following what they do around 08'.

  my recent posts express my reaction to what has happened since.. i just "tuned in" to the jw broadcasting episode for may 2016. it is worth a viewing.

  gb member anthony morris describes what is basically the thrust of why this entire effort exists.

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  Trying to indoctrinate kids using made up characters will provide an easy disconnect for kids as they grow older. They will outgrow the cartoons and will see them more as fairytale.

  Anthony Morris the III made a great joke in his last video about one child thought he was Sophia's and Caleb's grandfather. I also remember when the org. mocked parents for pretending that Santa was real.
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  Does the governing body know what they are doing?

  by Gefangene in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  what do you guys think?.

  are they only some uber religious zealots or do they pursue hidden agendas beyond religiosity?.

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  To come up with an idea like the generation teaching show they do have an agenda, but the delusional men justify it. Jesus gave the commission to keep on the watch and they justify their wrong dates and speculation on doing their job of keeping the sheep on the edge of their seats in anticipation. That's why they don't apologize, because they feel they were ultimately doing what they were commissioned and their mistakes are just a means to an end, done with the best of intentions and sincerity.
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  JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here..  it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.

  the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.

  then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.

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  He says it at the 5.26 mark. You should see the facial expression he makes - inferring that it would be ridiculous and don't be so stupid as to think that.
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  Running ahead of Jehovah can be done with a slow walk.

  by donny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few days ago i read a post of someone who has recently awakened to what the watchtower bible and tract society really is.

  in their comments, they stated that they had been accused of "running ahead of jehovah.".

  "running ahead of jehovah" was a statement levied at me many times during my convoluted journey through that organization.

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  Relying on the wind to guide you isn't going to get you far very quickly and by a direct route.

  Are they being directed by a sailboat or God's chariot?
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  Dutch branch refuses to meet with LGBT rights organization.

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in the wake of the anti-gay cartoon, the coc (dutch lgbt rights organization) invited watchtower netherlands to discuss how watchtower is dealing with lgbt people in their ranks.

  focus of the meeting would be on making sure lgbt jw feel safe and fully accepted.. today several newspapers are reporting that the branch declined the invitation, stating that they 'can't imagine lgbt jw feeling unsafe.

  the branch won't talk to coc, but they might discuss internally with lgbt jw.'.

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  They are not prepared to co-operate with the higher authorities, they have to be forced through legal means.
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  JW Broadcasting reeks of desperation

  by oldskool in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  again, i'm a decade removed from the faith.

  i'm catching up now, and can't believe what i'm seeing.. i get that jw leadership faced a dilemma.

  there is no intellectual apparatus within the faith.

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  Listener

  Thanks for your insightful assessment OldSkool and I do wonder if some, if not many of the 'old school', more thinking Elders are feeling the same.
  
  When the monthly special video broadcasts were first introduced they said that they would be presented monthly by a GB member, a year or so later they have now decided that only every second broadcast will be presented by a GD member. No doubt, they've realised the damage it is causing. Also, they were showing their names and titles on the earlier videos and they've stopped that too.
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  All 2016 Convention videos in English and all Talk outlines for download

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all convention videos in english and all talk outlines for download.

  http://avoidjw.org/2016-regional-convention/

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  What's even more scary about the Great Tribulation Movie is the focus on the attack on JWs, not the destruction of all evil in the World.
  
  They've portrayed it to show that there is no protection for individual JWs, whether huddled in a group or not, they will be attacked. They will witness the attack, not only on themselves but their husband or wife and children.
  
  Meeting in groups, keeping account of members, having secret door knocks, hiding in bunkers together provides no protection. The only comfort is being able to hold a meeting where you've still got to put your hand in the air if you want to say something and listen to everyone say how good they were pre GT as a JW.  
  
  This is what they had to say about the GT once upon a time- W 1977 1/15
  
  

  But, really, if the “great tribulation” will be as devastating and destructive as the Scriptures indicate, is it possible for those serving God to look forward to its coming without fear and trepidation? We must keep in mind that there is a vast difference between the “great tribulation” that Jehovah God himself will bring upon Satan’s beastly organization and all those clinging to it, and the tribulation that Satan now brings upon Jehovah’s faithful witnesses in the form of persecution, bans, mob action and similar overt acts of violence....
  The “great tribulation,” foretold in Matthew 24:21, 22, is, on the other hand, something altogether different from the trouble and persecution engineered and inflicted, both in the past and in the present, by the Devil upon God’s servants. The “great tribulation” is a tribulation from God that will befall the Devil’s entire crowd in vindication of Jehovah and all those on God’s side. Just as it is written at 2 Thessalonians 1:6: “It is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you.”
  19 For these reasons God’s people have a deeper love and appreciation for Jehovah, and this, in turn, gives them a confidence free from any weakening or morbid fear. Awesome as the “great tribulation” may prove to be, these lovers of Jehovah are looking forward with eager anticipation to being eyewitnesses at that grand execution of divine judgment. (Ps. 89:7; Hab. 3:16, 18) 

  
  
  
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  All 2016 Convention videos in English and all Talk outlines for download

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all convention videos in english and all talk outlines for download.

  http://avoidjw.org/2016-regional-convention/

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  Listener

  What an amazing job, thank you.
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  Beards - September 2016 Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the issue of whether beards are acceptable or not is addressed in the september 2016 watchtower - well sort of.

  it is as clear as mud as to whether they are allowed in places like australia, usa and britain.. 17. what are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?17 what about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard?

  the mosaic law required men to wear a beard.

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  PurrPurr - I can't think of anywhere that beards would be frowned upon?
  
  No, I can't either PurrPurr but it appears that in JW Land there are places where it would not just be frowned upon but found not to be irreprehensible

  Watchtower Sept 2016 quote - In fact, having one may hinder a brother from bringing glory to God by his dress and grooming and his being irreprehensible.