With that change they say there was never a FDS until 1919 is extraordinary, not even the disciples were FDSs.
They are also basically calling all JWs back then who said Russell was the FDS, liars, even Rutherford stated he was.
now this is weird, ever heard of the "mandela effect" ???
i know how crazy it sounds but i got to tell you, this article about the governing body finally admitting the "faithful slave" was not divinely appointed by jesus in 1919 was epic to me.
like a mandela effect feeling.
With that change they say there was never a FDS until 1919 is extraordinary, not even the disciples were FDSs.
They are also basically calling all JWs back then who said Russell was the FDS, liars, even Rutherford stated he was.
so can someone clarify this please?.
the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.
especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.
BlackSwan of Memphis, you may well be onto something there. They have introduced the idea in 2007.
What, then, can we deduce from the fact that one of the 24 elders identifies the great crowd to John? It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. Why is that important? Because the correct identity of the great crowd was revealed to God’s anointed servants on earth in 1935. If one of the 24 elders was used to convey that important truth, he would have had to be resurrected to heaven by 1935 at the latest. That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935. – Watchtower of January, 2007, p. 28 paragraphs 11-12
so can someone clarify this please?.
the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.
especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.
The July 2013 Watchtower states that they don't get the appointment until they are in heaven, because they are being appointed over heavenly and earthly interests.
Jesus will then be happy to appoint that slave over all his belongings. Those who make up the faithful slave will get this appointment when they receive their reward in heaven and become rulers along with Christ.
if the slave is given control over the 'domestics' in 1919 and this includes anointed and great crowd what is left for the master to give the slave?
all the worldly people will be destroyed so what is left?.
matthew 24: 45who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?+ 46 happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!+ 47 truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.48 “but if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘my master is delaying,’+ 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know,+ 51 and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites.
That is a good question Why144000 because they still have not clearly defined it since they made their changes regarding the FDS in 2013.
This was the old teachings regarding the belongings
w 2004 3/1
What are the belongings over which the newly crowned Master appointed his faithful slave? All the spiritual things that belong to Him here on earth. For example, two decades after Christ’s enthronement in 1914, “a great crowd” of “other sheep” was identified. (Revelation 7:9; John 10:16
In addition to providing nourishing spiritual food “at the proper time,” “the faithful steward” would be appointed over the entire body of Christ’s attendants and assigned to manage all of Christ’s interests on earth, “all his belongings.” What would this entail?
8 The slave’s responsibilities include the supervision of the material facilities used by Christ’s followers to carry out their Christian activities, such as the world headquarters and branch offices of Jehovah’s Witnesses, as well as their places of worship—Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls—throughout the world. More important, the slave also oversees spiritually upbuilding programs of Bible study at weekly meetings and periodic assemblies and conventions. At these gatherings, information on the fulfillment of Bible prophecies is dispensed, and timely direction on how to apply Bible principles in daily life is given.
9 The steward’s responsibilities also include the supervision of the all-important work of preaching “this good news of the kingdom” and making “disciples of people of all the nations.” This involves teaching people to observe all the things that Christ, the Head of the congregation, commands to be done during this time of the end. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20; Revelation 12:17) The preaching and teaching work has produced “a great crowd” of loyal companions of the anointed remnant. These “desirable things of all the nations” are undoubtedly to be counted among the precious “belongings” of Christ administered by the faithful slave.—Revelation 7:9; Haggai 2:7.
What do “all [Jesus’] belongings” include? Jesus did not qualify the word “all,” as if to limit his belongings to earthly things. In fact, Jesus has vast heavenly authority. “Allauthority has been given me in heaven and on the earth,” he said. (Matt. 28:18; Eph. 1:20-23) His belongings now include the Messianic Kingdom, which has belonged to him since 1914 and which he will share with his anointed followers.—Rev. 11:15.
so can someone clarify this please?.
the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.
especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.
Matthew 24: 45Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?+ 46 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!+ 47 Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.48 “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’+ 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know,+ 51 and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be.+
Wait for It has given a good summary.
From the above scriptures, prior to 2013 the GB taught -
- the FDS was appointed by Jesus in the 1st Century to feed the domestics
- the domestics were the anointed
- in 1919 after an inspection of the temple the FDS were found faithful and appointed over all his belongings
- the belongings included all the material holdings of the Watchtower and the other sheep
- the FDS was made up of the anointed with the GB being the representative of the anointed
In 2013 the GB taught
- the FDS was appointed over the domestics in 1919
- the FDS is made up of the Governing Body members when they come together as a group
- the domestics now include the anointed and other sheep (as well as the Governing Body members) and the GB just loves this teaching because it elevates the position of the other sheep whilst at the same time downgrades the position of the anointed.
- the FDS has not yet been appointed over all Christ's belongings, that is during the GT
- all the anointed (not just the FDS which exists only since 1919) will be appointed over all Christ's belongings at the GT, it is a shared reward
- the FDS is currently faithful & discreet and will continue to be because the wicked slave is just a hypothetical. In so doing, they have spoken for Jesus in announcing this before his return where he is supposed to be making that judgement.
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when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.
it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.
Hi Annon and welcome to the forum. Your information has been mentioned a few times and there are a couple of people that are in contact with the owners to inform them about how their music is being used.
gorby has been offline from jwd for some weeks, and it made my situation not better, have had some serious problems with the fading, much pressure, i have nothing new to say, it must be very similar to the situation of many faders here.. so, i had so much pressure, that we have had to change our holiday booking so we are able to visit the convention, due to family reasons, you all know what i mean.. please wish me (and us) much luck for this summer.
it is not my best summer season in life.. this is how i feel:.
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i was just reading the below article on theodore jaracz.
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/the-theocratic-life-and-times-of-theodore-jaracz/.
although the article never states whyjaraz was suddenly removed from the australian branch.
The story regarding Pat Gaza has virtually no detail.
i heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.
together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.
still awaiting solid confirmation though.
If this is factual I would guess that they will release it at the Annual meeting. It would be a little embarrassing for them to release it at' an assembly when they won't want to give everyone a printed copy.
i heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.
together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.
still awaiting solid confirmation though.
There's a bunch of Pyramids on the cover which doesn't seem likely. Don't they usually put pictures on their paperbacks?