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  meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

  so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

  now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

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  LevelThePlayingField, did you ever work out who spoke to the Elders and what they said?
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  Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

  this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

  they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

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  Landy, why did you just bother to make that comment? It's obvious that some JWs do wake up.
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  Any word on the annual meeting?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have all the leaks at ny bethel been discovered, or are there still some who are revealing the inner secrets beforehand?

  i haven't seen anything here about the annual meeting just a month away now.

  anyone have any real info on it?.

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  I would think it was going to be a bragging session about Warwick. That should inspire all the Bethelites they just kicked out.
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  Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

  this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

  they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

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  This is interesting Vanderhoven. The JWs aren't in the least bothered about earlier teachings but I didn't realise that they are only accepting as far back as what is currently online, which is to the year 2000.
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  Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.

  within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.

  what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).

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  Who even knows what the message is that they want to convey? They have a campaign for this and for that. One month they focus on a leaflet the next month, on the Awake. It's not as if they are seeing the same people.

  The message of the good news is simple but I doubt you would find one person who would tell you that is what the JWs are preaching. It's got lost in all their printed material and in their weekly ministry practice sessions.
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  Tribulation, Hardship and Jehovah: Will He Manifest Himself?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are the expectations of jws regarding future tribulation and "the church"?

  do they expect that at some point yahweh will manifest himself to the faithful and discreet slave to bring about the temporal salvation of his people?

  and if a member of the gb claimed to hear from jehovah in some way, like an angel, light or voice, how would the general membership react to the news?

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  Watchtower 14 11/15

  They stated this in the article that God will give them instructions during the GT, although they don't say how they can't already be included in the Bible because they would already know these instructions (or before the GT) as they specifically say they will be given them during the GT.
  
  Sorry but I am having trouble with the quotations and this is an edit to say that the second quote is about the scrolls of Revelation being opened after Armageddon with instructions. It seems a bit of a contradiction that they say he will give them instructions during the GT but after the GT, they will be in scrolls.

  When Gog begins the assault, Jehovah will tell his servants: “Go, my people, enter your inner rooms, and shut your doors behind you. Hide yourself for a brief moment until the wrath has passed by.” (Isa. 26:20) At that crucial time, Jehovah will give us lifesaving instructions, and the “inner rooms” might well be connected with our local congregations.
  18 If, therefore, we wish to benefit from Jehovah’s protection during the great tribulation, we must recognize that Jehovah has a people on earth, organized into congregations. We must continue to take our stand with them and remain closely associated with our local congregation. With all our hearts, may we join the psalmist in proclaiming: “Salvation belongs to Jehovah. Your blessing is upon your people.”—Ps. 3:8.

  Likewise, the Bible informs us thatscrolls will be opened to give us directions in new world living. (Read Revelation 20:12.) These scrolls will most likely set forth Jehovah’s requirements for mankind at that time. By studying these, all people, including resurrected ones, will be able to know God’s will for them. These scrolls will surely give us further insight into Jehovah’s mind. Guided by an ever-increasing understanding of God’s inspired Word along with what will be revealed in the new scrolls, inhabitants of the earthly Paradise will certainly treat their fellow man with love, respect, and dignity. (Isa. 26:9)
  
  
  
  

  
  Then there is this very interesting article from the Watchtower 07 01/01 where they are telling us that they know someone is communicating with them but they don't know who.
  
  

  Watchtower 07 1/1
  11 What, then, can we deduce from the fact that one of the 24 elders identifies the great crowd to John? It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. Why is that important? Because the correct identity of the great crowd was revealed to God’s anointed servants on earth in 1935. If one of the 24 elders was used to convey that important truth, he would have had to be resurrected to heaven by 1935 at the latest. That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935. Can we be more precise?
  
  
  

  
  The Bearing Witness Book claims that they are the only organization being led by HS
  

  This should not surprise us, for no other organization on earth is led by holy spirit in “bearing thorough witness” worldwide regarding Jehovah God, his Messianic King, and the established heavenly Kingdom!—Acts 28:23.

  
  

  
  
  
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  Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

  this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

  they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

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  Thanks for sharing Vanderhoven7, you brought up some very good points. I am surprised that they returned for more.
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  Pioneer afraid to meet with elders commits suicide

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they were afraid he would be df for something they did do instead of faceing possibility of being shunned commited suicide.

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  That's great Je.suis.oisif. I hope it continues to get better and better.
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  My old congregation is gone

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  went to the hall today as i was the designated driver for my parents.

  an elder who was in our old congregation in the city gave the talk.

  i've had a little chat with him and apparently our old congo is gone.

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  Let's hope the 140 members dwindles down quickly.
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  Heaven is ready and prepared for Armageddon - Talk A Morris III

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and why he doesn't go to the gym, jog or workout!

  also no survivalist mentality is required.deciphering warship has posted a youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, anthony morris the iii at last years imitate jesus convention.deciphering warship makes this comment.

  governing body member anthony morris demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food.

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  Listener

  The photo in the Watchtower 14 11/15 shows a shelf of food in the corner.

  http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014846

  They stated this in the article -

  When Gog begins the assault, Jehovah will tell his servants: “Go, my people, enter your inner rooms, and shut your doors behind you. Hide yourself for a brief moment until the wrath has passed by.” (Isa. 26:20) At that crucial time, Jehovah will give us lifesaving instructions, and the “inner rooms” might well be connected with our local congregations.

  18 If, therefore, we wish to benefit from Jehovah’s protection during the great tribulation, we must recognize that Jehovah has a people on earth, organized into congregations. We must continue to take our stand with them and remain closely associated with our local congregation. With all our hearts, may we join the psalmist in proclaiming: “Salvation belongs to Jehovah. Your blessing is upon your people.”—Ps. 3:8.

  If they think the scripture in Isaiah applies then it specifically says to hide yourselves and yet they profess to be waiting on Jehovah to advise them where to hide. How is it, all of a sudden, that Jehovah will be communicating with them at this time but doesn't do so now?

  They can't help but speculate and make things up, being far from discreet and going beyond what the Bible states.