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  in retrospect: RBCs vs LDCs / the hype about a lot of new construction and subsequent abrupt halt to construction

  by Magnum in

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  2. scandals

  so, now that some time has passed, i’d like some input/thoughts/analysis/etc.

  on the jw construction situation in the last few years.. first, why did they discontinue the rbc arrangement and institute the ldc arrangement?

  was it for more and/or better control?

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  Listener

  They are valid points Morpheus and Magnum.
  
  This latest Broadcast which explains one reason why less Halls are needed by amalgamating and filling seats begs the question as to why they didn't do this in the first place. Are they really that stupid or was it always intended in the first place? It is possible that they thought there would be a great expansion but the indications aren't there.
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  The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

  by Isambard Crater in

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  2. beliefs

  on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

  when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

  i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

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  I think IC is referring to the June 2017 Watchtower regarding the parable of the Pearl
  
  

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017442?q=pearl&p=par

  
  What is the lesson for us? The truth of God’s Kingdom is like that priceless pearl. If we love it as much as the merchant loved that pearl, we will be willing to give up everything in order to become and to remain one of the subjects of the Kingdom. (Read Mark 10:28-30.) Consider two individuals who did just that.
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  Current JW Go Fund Me requests

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic was discussed a few years ago and i thought i would have a look to see what is going on with go fund me's by jws.

  i am astounded that there are a great deal more jws requesting money than there were a few years ago and even by pioneers.i've only looked in detail at a few jw go fund me requests but came across this one that i am stunned about on a number of levels.. my little maryhello friends.

  meet my wonderful girlfriend mary, a 23 year old "need greater pioneer"serving in the english field in san marcos nicaragua.

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  Listener

  It could be Smiddy, there is a photo of the loving couple though and the story is not too elaborate.
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  Current JW Go Fund Me requests

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this topic was discussed a few years ago and i thought i would have a look to see what is going on with go fund me's by jws.

  i am astounded that there are a great deal more jws requesting money than there were a few years ago and even by pioneers.i've only looked in detail at a few jw go fund me requests but came across this one that i am stunned about on a number of levels.. my little maryhello friends.

  meet my wonderful girlfriend mary, a 23 year old "need greater pioneer"serving in the english field in san marcos nicaragua.

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  Listener

  This topic was discussed a few years ago and I thought I would have a look to see what is going on with Go Fund Me's by JWs. I am astounded that there are a great deal more JWs requesting money than there were a few years ago and even by pioneers.
  
  I've only looked in detail at a few JW Go Fund Me requests but came across this one that I am stunned about on a number of levels.
  
  

  My Little Mary
  Hello friends. Meet my wonderful girlfriend Mary, a 23 year old "need greater pioneer"serving in the English field in San Marcos Nicaragua.
  She has a form of anaemia that's causing her spleen to kill her blood cells, her current hemoglobin (blood) count is 6.0. The average is 12.
  She's been battling this hereditary illness (in and out of multiple hospitals dealing with the "no blood transfusion" issue) with faith and endurance. But this year it's become severe and now come to a life threatening climax. We just spent another week in the hospital, and she's out now, but on strict bed rest until she has surgery to remove/disable the spleen. We are in Nicaragua now but there's no treatment options here, so we are going to leave the country for surgery ASAP. Just waiting on confirmation from a doctor that's willing to help.
  I thank you even for reading this far on our page.
  She loves Jehovah God very much. It's our prayer that she can recieve the safest medical care for her deteriorating condition, as soon as humanly possible.
  Love you all!
  Best wishes, Taylor Hopkins
  P.s. If in the event there are left over funds, they will be placed in the contribution box at the Kingdom Hall.
  Update 1
  Thank you for your prayers and support! Mary is in good company and for the most part good spirits despite the circumstance. Others have bringing food too, and gifts, we love all of you!
  She's a lil camera shy too haha, we're working on it.
  Update 2
  We're still waiting on answers regarding where she will have surgery. Specific prayers regarding finding a qualified surgeon, anesthesiologist, and hospital would be most appreciated!

  https://www.gofundme.com/my-little-mary
  Firstly, why is this young lady volunteering in a third world country when she is so sick, can't afford her own medical care and doesn't have access to proper care?
  
  Of course, as discussed on previous threads it's unbelievable that JWs are begging worldly people for money when they've been able bodied to earn money themselves but haven't. But they want money from people they believe will be killed imminently.
  
  Why has she had to resort to ask 'Satan's World' for money if their organization is the most loving organization on earth? This lady is a pioneer serving in another country, surely more could be done for her.
  
  The worst thing is that she is gravely ill and unable to accept the best type of medical care due to the organizations no blood policy.
  
  
  
  
  
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  The special talk is now BEFORE the Memorial

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  august 11, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: 2018 memorial invitations and date of special talk .

  fyi:.

  the 2018 memorial will be held on saturday, march 31, 2018.. the 2019 memorial will be held on friday, april 19, 2019..

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  I find it hard to imagine what it must be like as a JW to invite their Bible studies to a meeting that's just a video, it's laughable. But it would make more sense if the special talk message is introducing a significant change and has to be highly scripted.
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  Juarez MX Assembly Kingdom Hall to be sold.

  by ironsnake656 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are several confirmed announcements in some congregations around the city regarding the sale of the assembly kingdom hall.

  one of the reasons why it will be sold is that expenses are not covered by donations.

  the hall was dedicated in 2009. actually, in some congregations the elders have not given the announcement for the publisher's reaction... .

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  Desperate times call for desperate measures. I wonder what else they've got in mind in order to get more money?

  They've been calling on the Bro's to simplify their lives, sell their belongings and homes and downgrade to units. Maybe they'll intensify their urgency for doing so and ask for the proceeds to enable them to speed up their preaching work.
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  Everything is Up for Grabs! So, who gets to decide?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  everything really is up for grabs.. our sense of "absolutes" is always under fire.

  we are taught to invest all of our belief in the very idea of something being true and absolute and constant.but--is that illusory?.

  examine how this works: jesus was tortured and murdered by hanging him on a cross.

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  Simon - Some are misguided but it doesn't take away their courage and bravery and they don't deserve to be erased from history.

  What about those that chose not to go to war and were jailed? It could be viewed by some that this took more courage, they had to face ridicule and humiliation by their fellow countrymen, they are not celebrated or honoured.

  Their courage and bravery was different, they were breaking the law and going against the generally accepted norm. Because they were in the minority their bravery is not acknowledged. The Vietnam War was possibly the most significant time when more individuals started to question this dilemma but I don't recall any monuments erected in their honour. There are songs, movies and artworks but no monuments, maybe this is one way that acceptance of alternative stances slowly creeps into society on a larger scale.

  By acknowledging one group of people we diminish the accomplishments of another group of people, usually those in minorities but they are often there and it's good to examine these by looking back in history.
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  Ridiculous (degrading) comment on society's video

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on video "benefits of divine education" william samuelsson makes totally appalling comment.. starting from 3:05 he refers to "an effort" that was made in past to see how society's curriculum corresponds with normal - worldly - universities.. then he claims that following question was asked (to university representative) "how we in five months can teach the same that for them takes two years"?.

  according to w samuelsson the representative of a university replied something like this: "your students are motivated, they have come to learn where as our students have been send to university by their parents and might have something else than learning in their mind".

  this is to crystallize what he said.

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  There are some really creepy comments by one of the GB helpers. He says that their education 'has the power to 'tame eagles and create humility within the student'. The students 'become more trusted by the Organization'.
  
  I bet Scientology feels the same way about their courses, the only difference is that it's a lot cheaper to be brainwashed by the Watchtower than Scientology.
  
  If JWs aren't already putty in their hands then they're certainly going to be after going through one of their schools. It's no wonder that a person has to 'qualify' to attend these indoctrination sessions by already demonstrating their submissiveness to the organization.
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  The special talk is now BEFORE the Memorial

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  august 11, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: 2018 memorial invitations and date of special talk .

  fyi:.

  the 2018 memorial will be held on saturday, march 31, 2018.. the 2019 memorial will be held on friday, april 19, 2019..

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  Are they planning some big changes and need to do a special talk beforehand to reinforce them?
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  2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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  she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

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  She's holding a Bible in her hands, someone needs to tell her she won't find anything about shunning her sister in there.