More than likely, Cook has no children, making it 7 out of 8 appointed men on the Governing Body that have had no experience in raising children. But as pointed out already, he's lived most of his life sheltered in the Bethel environment, which reduces his practical experiences even further.
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New Member Of The Governing Body 24 Jan 2018
by pale.emperor injust seen this announced on reddit:.
ken cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the governing body.
i dont recall him from the broadcasts, but he was formally a helper on the writing committee as per https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Masturbation is discussed by the organisation as if it's a young persons problem. But it's hard to imagine that someone like Sanderson who is single and in his 50s doesn't have a battle with this all the time. If the organisation was sincere about this issue the surely it would have been more appropriate for Sanderson to give the talk and he could have related, from personal experience, how he deals with the matter.
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Pillowgate makes headlines in Finland
by Festus inlocal newspaper in finland has published an article concerning wtbs:s "pillowgate@ videos.
the local "communications manager" of jehovah's witnesses - veikko leinonen - has declined to comment them.
according to him they are for internal use only.
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Saying that they are for internal use only doesn't help their case, it just makes them look more cultish.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Since the GB feel the need to present this talk on masturbation to Bethelite newbies maybe they should examine more closely those that they are selecting to work at Bethel given their understanding as written in the Watchtower 1973 9/15
That masturbation is abnormal and unnatural is also indicated by the fact that abnormal, mentally deranged people are notorious masturbators. Somewhat similarly, The Bremerton Sun (Washington) states that many mentally disturbed priests and nuns are chronic masturbators
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End times "too late for you now" witnessing?
by CitizenofEarth inhello there.. i've heard it several times from different people while i was growing up, as well seen some people talk about it here on the forum.
the subject is the jw belief that a time will come before the end where they will change the message that jesus talked about, to one of damnation, where the world will be told something along the lines of "it is too late now".
do any of you have references to jw litterature where they write this?
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I think they are softening up on this viewpoint. The July 15 2015 Watchtower explains their latest light on the matter. This was the article that had them saying there would be a 'rapture' of the anointed.
In that article they say that the GT will be "3 Soon, very soon,"
Although they state that they don't know the exact order of events they do state that the beginning of the GT starts with Babylon the Great (false religion/religious organizations) being destroyed but there will be some who leave their religionseven some of the clergy will abandon their religious course and deny that they were ever part of those false religions.
Here's what they say about the message changing during the GT9 This will not be the time to preach the “good news of the Kingdom.” That time will have passed. The time for “the end” will have come! (Matt. 24:14) No doubt God’s people will proclaim a hard-hitting judgment message. This may well involve a declaration announcing that Satan’s wicked world is about to come to its complete end. The Bible likens this message to hailstones when it says: “Great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great.”—Rev. 16:21.
In the article they explainwe cannot expect that the future interruption in the great tribulation will result in an influx of new believers.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Towards the end of the video the viewers are invited to report to the Elders if they have been involved in any of the situations revealed throughout the talk. What a great way to start life at Bethel or they could just as likely send you home for lying on you application.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Some more gems.
The definition of flirting is when you treat someone as if you're interested in marrying them but have no intention of not doing so (seems I wasn't flirting with my husband before we dated after all).
1.41 We get some examples of what porneia is. You might pay a stripper to give you a lap top dance. She grinds her croche on your knee and you get aroused. It can even include provocative dancing where your genitals are rubbing against another.
If you masturbate in front of each other, that is not porneia but it is a serious sin and needs the elders to deal with it. (Somehow, masturbating whilst watching porn, which can be pictures of real people is not a serious sin and won't get you dfd).
Apparently, you may sometimes be struggling with same sex desires but that doesn't mean your homosexual. This got me wondering if Tight Pants Tony was behind this talk.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Bobby you say that the org. has every right to have their own rules for Bethelites. What is puzzling me is what rules are being established in this video that only apply to Bethelites and not all JWs? -
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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I've listened to half of it so far. It's complete madness.
They make the claim that men are more affected by 'desire of the eyes' than women.
21.0 Flirting is discussed. A female can't tell a male that his hair or dress looks good along with enquiring as to his safety unless she is intending to marry him.
54.0 Makes some outrageous claims about tight clothing and that it looks homosexual because it makes the male look more feminine. It sexually arouses both men and women.
1.04 Is the pillow talk. A person may be guilty of masturbation by going to sleep with a pillow or blanket between their legs if it leads to a wet dream, you need to be honest with yourself when doing this if your intention is for this to happen. It's okay to have erotic dreams that lead to orgasim but you've got to examine whether you have thought of anything that has led to that, which would be wrong.
Wearing tight underwear and walking around in it, to the point of ejaculation is also masturbating yourself.
So far, not one scripture to support the claim that it is biblically wrong, that would be because there isn't one.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Bobby - I think “scandal-mongering” is the appropriate term for this video and his channel as a whole.
He learnt from the best and that may be another reason why some find him not to their liking.It's fascinating when a poster makes a comment in regards to a particular person but when taken on its own applies very much to the organization that they support.